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Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star
Date 2018-11-15 23:24 +0000
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Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 1:42:29 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> >> >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote:
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >>  No,  I hate to break it to
>> >> >> >> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is
>> >> >> >> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced
>> >> >> >> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do.  
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > LOL!  Exactly.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a 
>> >> >> > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out 
>> >> >> > when they succumb to the depressing music.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> If they time it just right, the can land on a trumpet player.
>> >> > 
>> >> > LOL! F*ck you both. Here's a tangentially related question:
>> >> > Is there any 'art' to programming?
>> >> 
>> >> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410H2IHR3vL._AC_US218_.jpg
>> > 
>> > I'll take that as a yes... and we know it requires 'languages'.
>> > We know music is an art. Do you recognize music as a "language"?
>> 
>> Yes.  It's the language of *emotion*.  Which is why I just don't get jazz.
> 
> I would argue that you do get emotion from the elements that are
> regularly borrowed from Jazz in many genres (even Country).
> 
>> With other genres, you make an instant emotional connection with the
>> music.  With jazz, apparently you need a Rosetta Stone and a magnifying
>> glass to find it. 
> 
> Not everyone makes a connection with Vim or sc, yet, those are 
> both examples of programming 'songs' you've made a connection 
> with.

Knuth might consider programming to be an "art", but for me it's
entirely too much of a left-brain activity for the product to
be considered art.  
 

> Consider this:
> 
> If you don't like a tune does that automatically equate it to lacking 
> all emotion in your mind? 
> 

Possibly.

> But that wouldn't really seem to make sense, would it? 
> 

It might.  Give me an example.


> So what's really going on here if the emotion you keep mentioning 
> is a one sided deal, strictly done on the side of the listener? Is Joe
> Satriani really soul-less?


His original music is a mishmash of experimental noise.
His covers are technical.  Clap. Clap.
Does he have a soul?  Who knows.  


> Or is he only so for Ritchie Blackmore and
> certain others?

Blackmore expressed his opinion.  You call it jealousy.  Maybe
it was just honesty.   


> Emotion, soul, whatever you wish to call it, isn't an
> easy thing to pin down it would seem. Or... maybe you're confusing
> preference with emotion. Think that's possible?
>

No.
 
> My take is unless one has an impairment of their brain of some kind,
> music, all music, will elicit some kind of emotion from the listener.  
> 

So where is the emotional jazz example? 


>> Here is just a random sample of assorted tunes that
>> burst with emotion.  Note that there is no need to get out a slide rule
>> to explain it:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqDVObM1kxc
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF9Q3hnAr88
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up06CryWQpE
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GUrcEx7Guw
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFnkCIwGwiA
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFnkCIwGwiA
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJefPaBsSug
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKQtWMETbfo
> 
> Some of those tunes are borrowing from Jazz (which is exactly 
> what I'm suggesting).
>

What are they borrowing?  Certainly not the melodies.
I did see a jazz guitarist with his wayfarers back in the distance
behind Smokey. :)

 
>> And on and on and on for literally thousands of other examples.
>> Where is the one jazz song that even comes close to expressing
>> *any* emotion?  I could give a rat's ass how complex a song
>> is or how hard it is to play.  I want a song to grab me by
>> the gut and squeeze hard.
> 
> Sigh...
> I'll say it *again*, I'm *not* talking about Jazz music.

Listen, if you're saying that we shouldn't be talking about music at
the same time we're talking about Jazz, then I'm gonna have a hard time
disagreeing with you.  :)

> I'm talking 
> about borrowing concepts derived from it that can be utilized in 
> various genres while retaining all the elements of what *you* 
> consider "*emotion*" to be limited to.

Like what?

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  Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 05:11 -0800
  Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 07:42 -0800
    Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:01 -0800
    Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 16:19 +0000
      Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:32 -0800
        Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 01:04 +0000
          Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:17 -0800
            Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:24 -0800
              Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:55 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 21:51 -0800
              Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:02 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:27 -0800
            Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 01:34 +0000
              Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:21 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:58 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 21:35 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:04 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 07:35 -0600
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:00 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 07:17 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:49 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 08:51 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 17:26 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 10:11 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 10:38 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:05 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 14:47 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 23:46 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 16:19 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 03:56 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 10:52 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:01 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 12:44 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:00 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 00:02 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:43 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 04:12 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 08:01 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 18:28 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 11:22 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 19:47 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:07 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 20:29 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:59 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 21:44 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 13:53 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 14:18 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 15:07 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 02:03 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 20:01 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 04:17 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 20:42 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 04:58 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 07:49 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 08:21 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:31 +0000
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:30 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 09:50 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:04 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 10:58 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:25 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 13:04 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:42 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 09:51 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:01 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 10:06 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:42 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:06 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:31 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:34 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:49 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:04 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:24 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:56 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:11 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 14:53 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 14:57 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:17 -0500
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 23:24 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:25 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:31 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 23:33 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:45 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:02 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:14 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:26 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:43 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:56 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:16 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 01:28 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 21:22 -0800
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