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Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star
Date 2018-11-14 04:12 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
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Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 5:02:39 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 1:01:58 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 10:26:27 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > (snip)
>> >> > 
>> >> >> I've noticed the tendency of some guitarists to heap praise on certain
>> >> >> players who are no doubt technically capable, but who have never managed
>> >> >> to gain a popular following because they just don't play anything that
>> >> >> anybody wants to hear.  I think that praise has more to do with defensive
>> >> >> exclusivity, keeping those players "theirs" and feigning an imaginary
>> >> >> "inside knowledge" or "sophisticated ear" that just does not present
>> >> >> itself to a non-guitarist listener, or even most guitarists in general,
>> >> >> for that matter, I'm happy to say.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Name one of the guitarists from any of the bands you've posted who
>> >> > can improvise a solo over a complex set of chords like this:
>> >> > 
>> >> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3e0BZTsXQ>
>> >> > 
>> >> > My take: people who are casual listeners don't give credit where it's 
>> >> > due because they can't, they haven't put the time in to the intricacies
>> >> > of art on a higher level than the commercial stuff they're used to
>> >> > listening to. Angus Young is now 63 years of age, even now, I'd bet
>> >> > my legs he wouldn't even be able to grasp a feel for the chord chart,
>> >> > much less play over the changes. Why? Because doing so actually  
>> >> > *does* require "inside knowledge"... musical knowledge...   and a 
>> >> > "sophisticated ear", both of which Ford clearly had in abundance at 
>> >> > 30 years of age. 
>> >> 
>> >> Dude, you just don't get it.  Nobody wants to hear those chords at all,
>> > 
>> > Nobody who is an average listener, perhaps... but there are plenty of 
>> > people who do listen.
>> > 
>> 
>> But even they don't like what it does to their ears.  They like the
>> challenge of mining the details of what makes it "great" (since that's
>> never obvious).
>> 
>> >> much less anybody wanking around them. :)
>> > 
>> > Seems it has something in common with Linux ;)
>> 
>> I'd say it has more in common with Mack, since snobbery and metaphorical
>> badge display seem to be a big part of jazz.  Is there really anything to
>> *like* about jazz, other than admiration for a player accomplishing
>> something that may be technically difficult?
> 
> It's not just technical. That you don't associate with the elements in 
> it that evoke emotion in you is only because you're not familiar with 
> those elements. Let's try an experiment... start at this point:
> 
> <https://youtu.be/pl3e0BZTsXQ?t=97>
> 
> Then stop it at 1:43
> 
> What did you hear? 
> 

Elevator music.


> I'll try to describe to you what I hear:
> 
> The first line starts with a smooth bend, this is followed by a 'wah-like' 
> (and sustained) release note that ends the line at 1:40. Bluesy...
> 
> Then comes a little melodic sequence that 'answers' the first line... the 
> way blues players are known for, but then it changes...
> 
> At 1:44 the longer third and fourth lines 'answer' the 2nd in the most 
> tasteful fashion as he hooks into the harmonic changes seamlessly with 
> triplets, trilling his way down the neck only to change direction on the line 
> at 1:49, where it's like he's got something to tell you that's so urgent he 
> can barely squeeze it all in, yet, you hear every note *perfectly*. 
> 
> By the time you get to 1:52, unless you're brain dead, you begin to realize 
> you're being told a 'story', this f*cker is talking to you through his guitar! 
> And it's not just a casual conversation, it alternately ebbs and flows in a 
> way that you can't help but listen intently. Look at his mouth, fercrissakes, 
> it's as if the guitar stings have taken over his vocal chords but forget to 
> tell his lips ;)
> 

You're seriously overthinking this music thing.  Let me try your approach
though.  OK, here's what I get from a random hard-rock song featuring a
genuine guitar god who knew it wasn't always about shredding (even though
he essentially created the art).

0:34-0:44 "Something's getting ready to happen."
0:45-0:50 The tease.
0:51-1:01 "Pay attention now."
1:02-1:09 "Yes, it's me, Ritchie"
1:11-1:47  ***Orgasm***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBgAEv1OK3M


>> Where does the emotional
>> bond with the music come in?  Because, honestly, I just don't get anything
>> at all from jazz.
> 
> If you honestly got nothing from that solo then I dunno what to tell you...


No singer, no song.

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        Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 01:04 +0000
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:27 -0800
            Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 01:34 +0000
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:00 +0000
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 21:44 +0000
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 09:51 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:01 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 10:06 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:42 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:06 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:31 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:34 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:49 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:04 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:24 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:56 -0500
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:11 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 23:24 +0000
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:31 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 23:33 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:45 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:02 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:14 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:26 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:43 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:56 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:16 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 01:28 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 21:22 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:12 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:12 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 11:55 -0800
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                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 09:53 -0800
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 18:11 +0000
                Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 10:49 -0800
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