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Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later
Date 2015-04-11 16:58 +0000
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 4/11/2015 10:45 AM, owl wrote:

>> A company is truly only worth its net worth: assets - liabilities.  The
>> stock market is just respectable a means of gambling and has no relevance
>> the value of a company.  If I decide to buy Apple one day, there's no
>> way I'm paying $740 billion for a company that has a net worth of $178
>> billion.

> Put your thinking cap on: if you owned a company with a market cap of 
> $740B you'd be an absolute owl to sell it for substantially less, let 
> alone for the tiny book value of $178B.

$740 billion market cap would be great if I had bought in in 1980 and
were wanting to sell shares today.  If i'm wanting to buy the whole
company today, it would cost me $740 billion, and once I bought it,
market cap would be meaningless, or rather it would just mean "what
I paid for the company."  I would be left holding a company with a net
worth of $178 billion, for which I had paid $740 billion.  Not good.
Hell, even without considering liabilities, the total value of Apples
assets -- everything they own and all their cash in the bank -- is
only worth $261 billion according to latest quarterly balance sheet.
And their cash in the bank is $19.48 billion, so I don't know where all
this "Apple is sitting on hundreds of billions in cash" stuff comes from.

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It was bound to happen sooner or later "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-10 16:12 -0400
  Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-10 16:15 -0400
    Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-10 16:29 -0400
      Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-10 17:20 -0400
  Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 13:33 -0700
  Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-10 22:07 +0000
    Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-10 19:20 -0400
      Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 00:19 +0000
        Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-11 09:08 -0400
          Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:45 +0000
            Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-11 12:21 -0400
              Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 16:58 +0000
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-11 22:00 -0400
            Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 09:43 -0700
              Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 17:17 +0000
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 17:20 +0000
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 11:58 -0700
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:02 +0000
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 13:56 -0700
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-11 21:48 +0000
            Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-13 14:01 -0400
              Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 11:21 -0700
              Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-13 19:24 +0000
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-13 16:04 -0400
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-13 20:35 +0000
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 14:13 -0700
                Re: It was bound to happen sooner or later owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-13 21:52 +0000
              How many barrels of oil will the stock produce ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-04-13 23:42 -0700
                Re: How many barrels of oil will the stock produce ? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-14 13:37 -0400
                How many barrels of oil will the stock produce ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-04-14 10:55 -0700
                Re: How many barrels of oil will the stock produce ? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-14 15:20 -0400

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