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Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere

From "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com>
Newsgroups uk.politics.misc, alt.global-warming, uk.misc, sci.environment
Subject Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere
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Message-ID <he6dndZIsIvKCWfKnZ2dnUU78TOdnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink)
Date 2016-10-09 14:02 -0500

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On 09 Oct 2016 07:55 PM ,7 <7@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
> everyone hates me wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 09 Oct 2016 07:32 PM ,7 <7@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
> >> everyone hates me wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > Speculative.
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > "The electric vehicle of the future will be carbon negative
> >> >> >> >> > (reducing the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide) not just
> >> >> >> >> > carbon neutral (not adding CO2 to the atmosphere), say
> >> >> >> >> > researchers at Vanderbilt University and George Washington
> >> >> >> >> > University (GWU).
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > The trick: replace graphite electrodes in lithium-ion
> >> >> >> >> > batteries (used in electric vehicles) with carbon nanotubes
> >> >> >> >> > and carbon nanofibers recovered from carbon dioxide in the
> >> >> >> >> > atmosphere. The new technology could also be used in
> >> >> >> >> > sodium-ion batteries, currently under development for
> >> >> >> >> > large-scale applications, such as the electric grid."
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > http://www.kurzweilai.net/converting-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-into-carbon-nanotubes-for-use-in-batteries
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> The world puffs out 10 beeeelion tons of CO2.
> >> >> >> >> Hardly enough to grow 50 x 50 mile square of forest.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Quaaackhhhh!!!
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Last 100 years of emissions would not grow you
> >> >> >> >> 500 x 500 miles square of forest.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Climate trolls have a lot of explaining to do.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> The net CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04%.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Put that much amount of CO2 in a jar to measure
> >> >> >> >> heat retention, and you got pretty close to zero.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Except of course that heat retention is not the parameter to
> >> >> >> > measure.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > You need to measure incoming short wave radiation compared to
> >> >> >> > outgoing long wave radiation as you increase the CO2.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Measure it all you want - the ground and water does a better job
> >> >> >> of this than CO2.
> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> > And you have omitted to mention that the biggest contributor (by
> >> >> >> > a long way) towards the greenhouse effect is water vapour.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> No I woudn't. 2/3rd of the globe is water and water vapour
> >> >> >> heat retention is 99.99% of the total heat in the atmosphere.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> CO2 has no effect on this.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >>  
> >> >> >> > The warmer the atmosphere becomes, the greater the volume of
> >> >> >> > water vapour it can hold.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> False.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > True.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Why do you think clouds form?
> >> >> 
> >> >> You are distorting the context.
> >> > 
> >> > I was actually describing the physics, which are facts.
> >> 
> >> You were conflating facts with glow ball wamming
> >> 
> >> > If you wish to see facts as distortions then that is your perogative.
> >> 
> >> Conflating glow ball wamming fruit cake pseudo science with
> >> real science will kill you in the end.
> >> 
> >> I've dealt with green peace trolls out on the streets
> >> who are genuinely in shock when they
> >> realize they have been conned.
> >> 
> >> >> The globe is not warmied by CO2 as claimed by climate trolls
> >> >> to hold more water in the atmosphere.
> >> > 
> >> > Warmer seas will evaporate more water into the atmosphere and a warmer
> >> > atmosphere will be able to hold more water vapour. And so the cycle
> >> > will continue.
> >>  
> >> Not by a million mile by CO2.
> >> 
> >>  
> >> >> The temperature of the earth rises an average 1 degree per hour
> >> >> during the day and loses 1 degree per hour in the night.
> >> > 
> >> > Do you believe that sea surface temperatures remain static throughout
> >> > the year?
> >> 
> >> No it doesn't.
> >> 
> >> But it must hurt your glow ball wammied psuedo science idiocy
> >> a lot to know the Earth's land temperature
> > 
> > Last post it was the temperature of the earth. Now it is only the earth's
> > *land* temperature. So your argument is dismantling already.
> > 
> >> drops by average 1 degree
> >> per hour during the night and rises 1 degree per hour during the day.
> >> 
> >> We seem to have climate change of 1 degree ever hour.
> >> 
> >> Tut tut. Say it aint so!! :) :) :)
> > 
> > It aint so. Daily rise and fall of temperature is not climate.
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > And if not, how can that happen under your temperature equilibrium
> >> > scenario?
> >> 
> >> What?
> >> There is NEVER equilibrium.
> > 
> > I wondered when you would realise that. Varying day length would scupper
> > your silly theory.
> > 
> >> What do you think causes currents and storms?
> > 
> > Coriolis is one of the main things.
> > 
> >> 
> >> The bulk of the sun is also rotating every 6.5 days.
> >> Its also resurfacing every few days.
> > 
> > But the sun is cooling, not warming.
> > 
> >> 
> >> So no weather prediction can be more than 6.5 days accurate.
> > 
> > Weather is not climate.
> > 
> >> Becaus the bulk of the weather is caused by the Sun
> >> and how Earth receives its energy.
> >> It gains 1 degree per hour durig the day
> >> and loses 1 degree per hour average during night.
> > 
> > Does this depend on how long the days or nights are?
> > 
> >> 
> >> If weather can be no more accurate than 6.5 days,
> >> then how are climate trolls going to predict
> >> years in advance without trolling???????
> > 
> > Nice try, but complete scientific rubbish.
> 
> 
> Why don't you check before posting something you
> don't know.
> 
> There is nothing out there that predicts weather
> more than 7 days accurately.

There is nothing out there that predicts weather more than 1 day ahead accurately. 

Although given much of the rubbish you have posted, your definition of accurate will be different to mine. 

> 
> Climate trolls call it the butterfly effect but the real
> problem is the resurfacing rotating sun which never
> the same more than 6.5 days.

What about sunspots that last for more than 6.5 days? 

Some persist for many weeks.



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Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere DVH <dvh@vhvhvhvh.com> - 2016-10-09 07:11 +0100
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "A. Filip" <anfi@wp.eu> - 2016-10-09 08:14 +0100
    Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere DVH <dvh@vhvhvhvh.com> - 2016-10-09 11:47 +0100
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "A. Filip" <anfi@wp.eu> - 2016-10-09 12:11 +0100
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 06:15 -0500
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 12:32 +0000
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere Vidcapper <vidcapper1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-09 14:51 +0100
        Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 09:07 -0500
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 16:37 +0200
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:22 -0500
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 18:25 +0200
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 11:41 +0000
    Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 07:05 -0500
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 12:24 +0000
        Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 08:02 -0500
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 15:07 +0200
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 15:26 +0000
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 20:11 +0200
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:21 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 13:36 -0500
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:47 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 22:23 +0200
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-10 20:44 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-12 13:45 +0200
        Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 08:09 -0500
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 15:21 +0000
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 17:22 +0200
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2016-10-09 11:31 -0400
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 17:39 +0200
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:29 -0500
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:27 -0500
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:32 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 13:46 -0500
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:55 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 14:02 -0500
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-10 20:35 +0000
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2016-10-09 08:30 -0400
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> - 2016-10-09 13:46 +0100
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere Xenon131 <germanmidnightrunner@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 12:04 -0700
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-10-10 10:28 +0100

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