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| From | 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | uk.politics.misc, alt.global-warming, uk.misc, sci.environment |
| Subject | Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere |
| Followup-To | uk.politics.misc, alt.global-warming, uk.misc, sci.environment |
| Date | 2016-10-09 18:55 +0000 |
| Organization | enemygadgets.com |
| Message-ID | <e5vi4cFto9tU8@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <e5vgqfFto9tU1@mid.individual.net> <VZydnftR1oTmDWfKnZ2dnUU78IfNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
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Followups directed to: uk.politics.misc, alt.global-warming, uk.misc, sci.environment
everyone hates me wrote: > > On 09 Oct 2016 07:32 PM ,7 <7@enemygadgets.com> wrote: >> everyone hates me wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Speculative. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "The electric vehicle of the future will be carbon negative >> >> >> >> > (reducing the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide) not just >> >> >> >> > carbon neutral (not adding CO2 to the atmosphere), say >> >> >> >> > researchers at Vanderbilt University and George Washington >> >> >> >> > University (GWU). >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The trick: replace graphite electrodes in lithium-ion >> >> >> >> > batteries (used in electric vehicles) with carbon nanotubes >> >> >> >> > and carbon nanofibers recovered from carbon dioxide in the >> >> >> >> > atmosphere. The new technology could also be used in >> >> >> >> > sodium-ion batteries, currently under development for >> >> >> >> > large-scale applications, such as the electric grid." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://www.kurzweilai.net/converting-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-into-carbon-nanotubes-for-use-in-batteries >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The world puffs out 10 beeeelion tons of CO2. >> >> >> >> Hardly enough to grow 50 x 50 mile square of forest. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quaaackhhhh!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Last 100 years of emissions would not grow you >> >> >> >> 500 x 500 miles square of forest. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Climate trolls have a lot of explaining to do. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The net CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04%. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Put that much amount of CO2 in a jar to measure >> >> >> >> heat retention, and you got pretty close to zero. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Except of course that heat retention is not the parameter to >> >> >> > measure. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You need to measure incoming short wave radiation compared to >> >> >> > outgoing long wave radiation as you increase the CO2. >> >> >> >> >> >> Measure it all you want - the ground and water does a better job >> >> >> of this than CO2. >> >> >> >> >> >> > And you have omitted to mention that the biggest contributor (by >> >> >> > a long way) towards the greenhouse effect is water vapour. >> >> >> >> >> >> No I woudn't. 2/3rd of the globe is water and water vapour >> >> >> heat retention is 99.99% of the total heat in the atmosphere. >> >> >> >> >> >> CO2 has no effect on this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The warmer the atmosphere becomes, the greater the volume of >> >> >> > water vapour it can hold. >> >> >> >> >> >> False. >> >> > >> >> > True. >> >> > >> >> > Why do you think clouds form? >> >> >> >> You are distorting the context. >> > >> > I was actually describing the physics, which are facts. >> >> You were conflating facts with glow ball wamming >> >> > If you wish to see facts as distortions then that is your perogative. >> >> Conflating glow ball wamming fruit cake pseudo science with >> real science will kill you in the end. >> >> I've dealt with green peace trolls out on the streets >> who are genuinely in shock when they >> realize they have been conned. >> >> >> The globe is not warmied by CO2 as claimed by climate trolls >> >> to hold more water in the atmosphere. >> > >> > Warmer seas will evaporate more water into the atmosphere and a warmer >> > atmosphere will be able to hold more water vapour. And so the cycle >> > will continue. >> >> Not by a million mile by CO2. >> >> >> >> The temperature of the earth rises an average 1 degree per hour >> >> during the day and loses 1 degree per hour in the night. >> > >> > Do you believe that sea surface temperatures remain static throughout >> > the year? >> >> No it doesn't. >> >> But it must hurt your glow ball wammied psuedo science idiocy >> a lot to know the Earth's land temperature > > Last post it was the temperature of the earth. Now it is only the earth's > *land* temperature. So your argument is dismantling already. > >> drops by average 1 degree >> per hour during the night and rises 1 degree per hour during the day. >> >> We seem to have climate change of 1 degree ever hour. >> >> Tut tut. Say it aint so!! :) :) :) > > It aint so. Daily rise and fall of temperature is not climate. > >> >> >> > And if not, how can that happen under your temperature equilibrium >> > scenario? >> >> What? >> There is NEVER equilibrium. > > I wondered when you would realise that. Varying day length would scupper > your silly theory. > >> What do you think causes currents and storms? > > Coriolis is one of the main things. > >> >> The bulk of the sun is also rotating every 6.5 days. >> Its also resurfacing every few days. > > But the sun is cooling, not warming. > >> >> So no weather prediction can be more than 6.5 days accurate. > > Weather is not climate. > >> Becaus the bulk of the weather is caused by the Sun >> and how Earth receives its energy. >> It gains 1 degree per hour durig the day >> and loses 1 degree per hour average during night. > > Does this depend on how long the days or nights are? > >> >> If weather can be no more accurate than 6.5 days, >> then how are climate trolls going to predict >> years in advance without trolling??????? > > Nice try, but complete scientific rubbish. Why don't you check before posting something you don't know. There is nothing out there that predicts weather more than 7 days accurately. Climate trolls call it the butterfly effect but the real problem is the resurfacing rotating sun which never the same more than 6.5 days. >> >> CO2 has no place in there to make the atmosphere warmer >> >> to hold more water. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Because as air rises and cools, the cooler air cannot contain the >> >> > same amount of water vapour and so the excess condenses into tiny >> >> > water droplets (ice crystals if the temperature is low enough). >> >> > >> >> > Have you never breathed onto a window pane and wondered why it will >> >> > mist up on a cold day? >> >> > >> >> > I cannot discuss this with an ignoramus. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
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Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere DVH <dvh@vhvhvhvh.com> - 2016-10-09 07:11 +0100
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "A. Filip" <anfi@wp.eu> - 2016-10-09 08:14 +0100
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere DVH <dvh@vhvhvhvh.com> - 2016-10-09 11:47 +0100
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "A. Filip" <anfi@wp.eu> - 2016-10-09 12:11 +0100
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 06:15 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 12:32 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere Vidcapper <vidcapper1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-09 14:51 +0100
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 09:07 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 16:37 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:22 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 18:25 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 11:41 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 07:05 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 12:24 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 08:02 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 15:07 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 15:26 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 20:11 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:21 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 13:36 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:47 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 22:23 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-10 20:44 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-12 13:45 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 08:09 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 15:21 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 17:22 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2016-10-09 11:31 -0400
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 17:39 +0200
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:29 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:27 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:32 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 13:46 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:55 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 14:02 -0500
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-10 20:35 +0000
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2016-10-09 08:30 -0400
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> - 2016-10-09 13:46 +0100
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere Xenon131 <germanmidnightrunner@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 12:04 -0700
Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-10-10 10:28 +0100
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