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Re: Automotive Software and the Law

Subject Re: Automotive Software and the Law
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
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From Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Date 2017-03-17 11:42 +0000

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On 17/03/17 10:54, Les Cargill wrote:
> John Speth wrote:
>>> Actually by "law" I mean "law".  Are there regulations in any
>>> country or other polity that require companies manufacturing or
>>> selling automobiles to adhere to the standard before they can
>>> legally sell their wares?  Is there anywhere in the world where not
>>> following ISO 26262 will have a cop or a government lawyer knocking
>>> on your door?  Is there anywhere in the world where, before you can
>>> offer a newly-designed car for sale, you have to show documentation
>>> that proves that you've followed the standard, or regulations based
>>> on the standard?
>>
>> Here's a cynical response: No, no, and no; not until somebody is
>> killed.
>>
>> Straying off topic, I personally believe that lack of gov regulation
>> is the single biggest weakness of the technology.  Imagine what will
>> happen when a steering wheel free car is involved in a fatal crash.
>> The entire fleet will be grounded.
>>
>
> There have been fatalities already when the car was on "autopilot".

But now /deliberation/ and multiple parties are
involved in the decision.

Philosophy can be useful. In this case, should
you /design/ the car so that it chooses to kill
the driver (by swerving into a brick wall) in
preference to killing 10 pedestrians?

Fun, fun, fun.

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Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-14 18:27 -0500
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-03-14 20:18 -0400
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law HT-Lab <hans64@htminuslab.com> - 2017-03-15 11:18 +0000
    Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-15 11:36 -0500
      Re: Automotive Software and the Law HT-Lab <hans64@htminuslab.com> - 2017-03-15 17:12 +0000
        Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 12:32 -0500
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law John Speth <johnspeth@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-15 11:48 -0700
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 17:31 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-03-15 19:23 -0400
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 18:41 -0500
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 05:54 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 11:42 +0000
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 07:08 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 13:50 +0000
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 10:58 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 16:18 +0000
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 19:00 -0500
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law Jacob Sparre Andersen <jacob@jacob-sparre.dk> - 2017-03-15 22:01 +0100
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2017-03-16 11:09 +0100
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-16 10:16 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2017-03-17 12:10 +0100
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 07:12 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 11:00 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 14:49 +0000
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 05:52 -0500
    Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 11:03 -0500

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