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Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges?

From Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges?
Date 2016-01-09 19:21 +0100
Organization Me, Myself and I
Message-ID <glv7mc-ee2.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> (permalink)
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In article <n6rhgm$g4f$1@dont-email.me>,
Dave Garland  <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>On 1/9/2016 1:11 AM, 879 wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
>> news:n6q6ol$u3v$1@dont-email.me...
>
>>> Though my friend in Atlanta says everybody's got backup generators,
>>> because the outages there are so frequent, so YMMV.
>>
>> Weird that a first world country would put up with such an obscene
>> result.
>>
>> We don’t normally get one a year and they rarely last that long.
>
>The 'burbs are hilly and parts are thickly wooded, and the 
>infrastructure is old. Mostly it's wind blowing branches (or trees) 
>down that takes out lines, but there's a lot of trees, some of them 
>old and decrepit. And kudzu. I don't expect they get outages downtown.

This city vs suburbia vs countryside reliability comparison is
pretty much everywhere. Downtown has had three 1-2 hour power cuts
since Nixon resigned. But out here in outer suburbia we have them 
every month or so, with a longer one (up to 8 hours) every year or
so. 

I have wired the house with a 12V battery backed computer and essentials
power supply, have a wood fireplace and a small, 1kW petrol generator.
As well as a partial gas stove. The batteries are good for around a
day, somewhat more if I shut down stuff, somewhat less if I drive lots
of lights from it.

The upside is that the actual grid is pretty well thought out, they
just haven't got the funds to have automated switching everywhere for
the local supply, so they will have to send someone out to reroute 
stuff if there are shorts on some local 21kV lines that blow out
fuses. This happens when we have storms in the winter. But it is
normally fixed withon a few hours.

Whereas downtown they haven't had a single > 2seconds power cut
for nearly 15 years. The last one was when a core tranformer blew up
due to lack of oil cooling in 2001. The 2 seconds are for the automated
relays to throw the load to a different supply.

This seems to be the story almost everywhere.

-- mrr


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upgrading to telco DSL--charges? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 12:46 -0800
  Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 19:24 -0500
  Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-06 19:18 -0600
    Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-07 19:52 -0600
      Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-08 10:22 -0800
        Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 10:49 -0800
        Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-08 23:46 -0600
          Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 18:11 +1100
            Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-09 11:56 -0600
              Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-10 06:17 +1100
              Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-09 19:21 +0100
                Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-09 11:59 -0800
                Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2016-01-10 14:29 -0700
                Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-10 08:07 +1100
                Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-10 12:08 +0100
                Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-11 04:16 +1100
              Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 14:41 -0500
              Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-09 11:57 -0800
                Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-10 08:11 +1100
            Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2016-01-10 14:31 -0700
  Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 17:52 -0800
  Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2016-01-08 10:15 -0800
    Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-08 22:12 +0100
      Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-08 17:11 -0600
    Re: upgrading to telco DSL--charges? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 18:06 -0500

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