Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > ger.ct > #394185

Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container

From Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container
Date 2019-03-30 11:17 +0100
Message-ID <gg8u2kFqcvbU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (14 earlier) <q7crh8$lj9$2@news.albasani.net> <gg1fq2F740uU1@mid.individual.net> <q7g22m$bcp$1@news.albasani.net> <gg1ho1F7ghjU1@mid.individual.net> <q7g3n8$6m4$1@news.albasani.net>

Show all headers | View raw


Am 27.03.19 um 16:09 schrieb Bonita Montero:

>> Was das Programm tun sollte häufig.
>> Zumindest wenn man die Bedeutung der Namen außer
>> den paar Schlüsselwörter kennt.
>> Was bei größeren oder älteren Programmen
>> schwierig werden kann.

> Äh, und das sollte einem dann das Disassembly erleichtern???
> Ich würde sagen, die Funktion eines Programmes nachzuvollziehen
> ist anhand des Disassemblys um Größenordnungen schwieriger.

Das hängt vom Programm und deren Eigenschaften ab.

Disassembler kann etwas bringen, wenn man wissen will,
was da wirklich passiert.

Eine andere Methode ist der Maschinencode trace.
Den habe ich beruflich verwendet,
wenn eingebaute debug Ausgabe nicht ausreichte.
Z.B. wenn ich wissen wollte,
wo ein fehlerhafter Variableninhalt an eine Speicherstelle gelangte,
und es im code nicht ersichtlich war.

Hermann
    der sich an ein wüst konstruiertes hello world Programm in C
    im internet erinnert,
    welches er eher mit einem Disassembler
    ( und noch lieber per Maschinencode trace
    nachvollziehen würde, als das C Programm logisch
    zu zerlegen.

-- 
http://www.hermann-riemann.de

Back to ger.ct | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 10:53 +0100
  Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 11:56 +0100
    Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 04:05 -0700
      Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 12:18 +0100
        Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 05:31 -0700
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Klaus Dahlwitz <kdahlwitz@gmx.net> - 2019-03-25 13:35 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 13:46 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 07:40 -0700
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 13:45 +0100
            Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-25 07:51 -0700
              Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 16:54 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-25 18:05 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 18:20 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-25 18:32 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 19:33 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:02 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:16 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:30 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:40 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 14:16 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:29 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2019-03-27 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:48 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2019-03-27 16:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:39 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 15:56 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 17:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-26 08:16 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:21 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-26 12:11 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 07:30 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2019-03-26 15:38 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 15:42 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:54 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:57 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:53 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:55 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:00 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:03 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:19 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 02:41 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 10:47 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:31 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 15:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 16:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:16 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:15 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 16:00 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-27 16:07 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:36 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:44 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 10:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Frank Klingenhoefer <frank.private@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:36 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 16:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-27 08:42 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:46 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:01 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:40 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 12:53 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:01 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 15:18 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 06:47 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-29 14:58 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 08:24 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2019-04-08 11:39 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Reinhold Glaser <spam.honey.pot@abwesend.de> - 2019-03-28 14:47 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 17:02 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:30 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-30 11:17 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 11:41 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Dietz Proepper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2019-03-30 12:52 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 13:04 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang  Εnzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2019-03-30 13:24 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 13:29 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:19 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:27 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 08:56 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 09:25 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:09 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-04-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-02 07:20 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:06 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 20:00 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang  Εnzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2019-04-25 00:07 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:14 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-30 14:46 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-30 15:03 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:10 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2019-03-30 14:48 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:28 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Dietz Proepper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2019-03-30 15:09 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-30 06:04 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-30 17:22 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 17:32 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-04-09 11:27 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-04-09 19:40 +0200
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-27 18:06 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 18:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:08 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2019-03-28 19:18 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:51 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-28 19:59 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 12:11 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:43 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-28 19:35 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 14:55 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:27 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:57 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 16:12 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2019-03-27 16:47 +0000
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Herwig AQSR <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2019-03-26 01:48 -0700
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 09:54 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2019-03-27 15:36 +0100
                Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 15:44 +0100
          Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2019-03-25 18:03 +0100
      Re: default initialization when creating a new entry in a container Ulf.Kutzner@web.de - 2019-03-25 06:45 -0700

csiph-web