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Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy

From	"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.os.linux, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy
Date	2019-02-08 06:51 +0100
Message-ID	<gc4jm4FksddU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2/8/19 12:40 AM, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2019-02-07, J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
>> On 2/6/19 5:24 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>>> On 2019-02-06, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> In article <q3dlkf$e4a$1@news.neodome.i2p>, <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently, we will have it in April 2019. Anyone planning to buy one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
>>>>>
>>>>> dead on arrival. no carrier support, no apps and numerous false claims.
>>>>
>>>> Carrier support isn't required. Just pop a SIM in and you're good to go.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course it is. The phone has to operate on the frequency/type band
>>> that the carrier operates on.
>>
>> In most countries, including US, there is an standard for the whole
>> nation (the only exception I can think of is China), so there is little
>> need for traditional carrier support.
>> Sure if you can get carriers to promote the phone, that would help.
> 
> Just wrong. TheUS has about 10 bands, depending on the carrier, and the
> type (GSM2--where there are 4 bands woprldwide and 2 in the US, but
> there is the additional problem of CDMA which is inaccessible from a GSM
> phone and does not use SIMS), but it
> is also being phased out almost everywhere, GSM3 where there are about 8
> bands and GSM4 where there are about 40 or so around the world and about
> 15 in the US alone.
> Now adays, the phone should support most of these bands, so you do not
> have to throw it away when you go on holiday in France or India or
> Japan, or ...
> nd now GSM5 is coming which will have another plethora of frequencies.

Those are standards, you do not have two different variations of CDMA 
and you have devices that use CDMA and has SIM slot and those those 
phones can be used on which ever network.

Sure you have different technologies even in Europe/UK, but you don't go 
out and buy a GMS device anymore, you will be looking at a 4G or even a 
5G device, which do have support for older networks too.

Analog -> GMS -> UMTS -> LTE

> Now if you live in Podunk USA and never go more than 10 miles from home,
> this is irrelevant. But most people those 1000 phones are directed at
> are travellers who could go anywhere in the world and want their phone
> to work anywhere. Which means that the phone has to support almost all
> of the GSM2 3 4 (and 5) frequency bands.


There are plenty of devices that works in US/Europe with no problems, 
the biggest issue tend to be Japan.


 > a) that is because in the UK., they want to sell phones to everyone,
 > and so make sure they support UK phones. Then you go to Spain or
 > Maroco, or USA and find your phone is as useful as brick.

Europe is standardized, the UK phone will work fine in Spain and even 
Maroco, if the phone is old it may not work in US, if it's newer there 
is a good chance it will work in US, maybe not all the bands as some are 
banned bands in Europe.

-- 

  //Aho

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Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-06 03:52 +0000
  Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-05 23:25 -0500
    Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 08:45 +0000
      Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-06 10:43 -0500
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-07 22:39 +0000
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-07 22:47 -0500
      Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-06 16:24 +0000
        Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-07 21:43 +0100
          Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 22:56 +0000
            Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-07 23:42 +0000
              Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 07:52 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-02-08 02:59 -0600
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-08 13:13 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-08 18:53 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-08 21:27 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 16:23 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 17:28 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2019-02-09 19:01 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 18:25 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 18:43 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 19:53 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-10 08:38 -0800
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-08 21:22 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-09 15:03 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 17:18 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 17:40 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 18:13 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-10 08:39 -0800
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 22:51 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 17:24 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 17:38 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 17:53 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-09 18:09 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-09 20:12 +0000
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-09 23:34 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-10 00:55 +0100
                Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2019-02-09 18:57 +0100
          Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-07 23:40 +0000
            Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-08 06:51 +0100
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-07 22:29 +0000
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-07 23:46 +0000
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-07 22:47 -0500
  Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-06 04:39 +0000
    PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-06 06:23 +0000
      Re: PureOS and Librem laptops "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-06 07:56 -0600
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops <anon@anon.com> - 2019-02-07 22:25 +0000
        Re: PureOS and Librem laptops Mitch <m.mac@mixnym.net> - 2019-02-08 14:53 +0800
          Re: PureOS and Librem laptops "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-08 08:15 -0600
            Re: PureOS and Librem laptops John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-08 11:03 -0800
            Re: PureOS and Librem laptops Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2019-02-16 13:16 +0100
              Re: PureOS and Librem laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-16 12:34 -0500
                Re: PureOS and Librem laptops John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-16 12:32 -0800
  Re: Linux-based smartphone focused on privacy befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2019-02-06 12:05 +0100

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