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Re: The Danger of Systemd

From "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: The Danger of Systemd
Date 2019-02-04 19:27 +0100
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On 2/4/19 4:20 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 15:06:16 +0000, Richard Kettlewell vomited this
> verbiage that I considered to be worthy of my attention for one of a
> variety of possible reasons:
> 
>>
>> but the historical situation is the opposite of acceptance
>> without question: Debian alone had a >7000-message discussion about it.
>>
> 
> They have to do more -- a LOT more -- than just talk.
> 
> The developers at Gentoo, for example, have created eudev as a
> response to the systemd appropriation of udev.  This represents
> a significant step towards rejecting the hegemony of systemd.
> 
> Fortunately, I still utilize static device nodes and require
> neither udev nor eudev, but I recognize the extreme importance
> of having this alternative.
> 
> However, with systemd looming, I always wonder just how much
> longer I will be able to choose static device nodes.

or boot when an unimportant partion fails to mount during boot up.

I think that list can be made quite long, I can over see some stupid 
design flaws, but the thing that horrifies me most is the huge amount of 
serious security vulnerabilities that has already been discovered in 
systemd and those will just be more the more things it eats up, also 
reading some of the comments in the code just makes me think of a bunch 
of Indian developers who has no grasp of what they are doing.

-- 

  //Aho

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The Danger of Systemd "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 14:23 +0000
  Re: The Danger of Systemd Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 15:06 +0000
    Re: The Danger of Systemd "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 15:20 +0000
      Re: The Danger of Systemd "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-04 19:27 +0100
  Re: The Danger of Systemd flyer <snowflyer09o@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 15:12 +0000
    Re: The Danger of Systemd "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 15:34 +0000
      Re: The Danger of Systemd Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-02-04 09:53 -0600
        Re: The Danger of Systemd "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 16:07 +0000
          Re: The Danger of Systemd Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-02-04 19:05 +0000
            Re: The Danger of Systemd "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 19:14 +0000
            Re: The Danger of Systemd Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2019-02-05 14:00 +0200
              Re: The Danger of Systemd Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-02-05 15:13 -0600
              Re: The Danger of Systemd Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-05 16:32 -0500
                Re: The Danger of Systemd Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2019-02-06 09:35 +0200
              Re: The Danger of Systemd Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-02-05 21:35 +0000
    Re: The Danger of Systemd William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-04 17:04 +0000
      Re: The Danger of Systemd Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-02-04 19:11 +0000
  Re: The Danger of Systemd DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 12:15 -0500
  Re: The Danger of Systemd "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-04 19:22 +0100
  Re: The Danger of Systemd Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2019-02-06 22:08 +0100
    Re: The Danger of Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-07 17:00 +0100

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