Re: USB server install problem

From	Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: USB server install problem
Date	2019-02-01 07:00 -0800
Message-ID	<gbj58rFphkdU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Mike Easter wrote:
> Also to add to the Plan B using an Ub DE live boot; 18.04 Ubiquity 
> installer (only seen in desktop DE .iso/s) also has the option to 
> 'minimal install'.  I haven't yet seen a series of screenshots for that, 
> but it sounds like one could start with any of the main DE flavors of Ub 
> 18.04 and simply use a minimal install to the USB and eliminate all of 
> those normal DE installed programs.

And so now/next I'm going to abandon plan B in favor of plan C.

Plan B was to install a minimal graphical Ub to USB.  There are plenty 
of examples around of instructions of how to do that, and also plenty of 
people who say that doesn't work out for them.

I join those who say it doesn't work out for me.  It would seem that it 
should work just using the Ubiquity installer as if the USB were a hdd. 
When that USB doesn't boot, then it seems that if the USB were properly 
prepared in terms of partitions and flags and mount points that it 
should work, but it doesn't for me.

In addition, I learn that the minimal installation which the Ub with DE 
(in my case Mate) offers to provide is accomplished by first installing 
everything just as if it were a regular Mate DE with abundant programs 
install, and then to remove all of the abundant programs considered not 
minimal.

So, my primary conclusion is that installing to USB is not as 
advertised, at least in my hands.  My secondary conclusion, also in my 
hands, is that writing an Ub .iso to USB with persistence and a separate 
data partition with mkusb is quite reliable and can also be booted live 
running in ram.  So, there is practically no advantage to installing to 
the USB.

I haven't yet practiced with using mkusb to write to a bootable SD for 
such as a raspberry pi.  The guides for Pi suggest using etcher with 
which I am not yet familiar; etcher comes in v./s for Win, Mac, and 
Linux.  But, it doesn't do persistence.

mkusb docs says: "You can use mkusb to create a USB boot drive or a 
memory card"

So, if one wanted an SD/ memory card/ of some variety for a Pi or 
similar, you could make it with mkusb with persistence.

-- 
Mike Easter

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USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 08:19 -0800
  Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 08:52 -0800
  Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 17:27 +0000
    Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 09:48 -0800
      Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 18:15 +0000
        Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 10:25 -0800
          Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 10:45 -0800
          Re: USB server install problem "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 14:55 -0600
            Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 13:03 -0800
              Re: USB server install problem "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 15:47 -0600
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 16:00 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 16:20 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 17:01 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 07:00 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 09:01 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 11:04 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Lucifer <LuciferMorningstar@bigpond.com> - 2019-02-02 06:17 +1100
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 11:47 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 17:19 -0800
              Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-02 08:55 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-02 01:05 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-02 10:50 -0500
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-02 08:39 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-02 21:38 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-03 14:01 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-04 21:58 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-04 15:33 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-05 12:29 +0000
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 09:34 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 20:27 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 20:29 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 13:04 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 13:29 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 23:44 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 23:47 +0100
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 15:58 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 16:16 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 16:57 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 17:25 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-06 20:17 +0100
          Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 21:44 +0000
            Re: USB server install problem Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-30 21:56 +0000
              Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 22:04 +0000
          Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-02 08:52 +0100
        Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 12:32 -0800
  Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 12:03 -0800

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