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Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers
Date 2018-10-24 08:48 -0700
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On 10/24/18 7:49 AM, proletariat wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:58:16 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 10/23/18 7:05 PM, owl wrote:
>> ...
>>>>> Nope.  That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort.
>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux
>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis.
>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell
>>>>> I want with the system.
>>>>
>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use
>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an
>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about.
>>
>> So something you cannot do with Linux. OK.
> 
> Yes.
> And with Windows I can use the cli or the group policy editor so in effect
> I have more choice than with Linux.

I do not do much with Group Policy but I recognize it as a good tool... 
even for small networks (or, really, on a single computer with "Local 
Group Policy").

>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys
>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as
>>>> challenges.
>>>
>>>
>>> What are these "problems with Linux"?
>>
>> My issue is the lack of choice and the issues with getting tasks done. I
>> can go into details... but we have covered this before. And, of course,
>> I do not mean all tasks -- there are many it is second to none with
>> (many tasks best handled in the CLI, for example).
> 
> Same here.

My challenge to people who like ANY tool is to show what they can do 
with it and HOW.

>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is
>>>> one of an outlier.
>>>
>>>
>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy?
>>
>> It was during the discussion about the CLI.
> 
> Owl is now doing the Linux two-step.

Right... things he does not like cannot be done by "Grandma", a stand-in 
for the general user, but almost NOTHING he shows can be done by that 
general user. Does not mean he is wrong to do things in ways different 
than the norm, but he sometimes goes FAR out of his way to make 
convoluted methods to do simple things. My favorite example is when he 
made thousands of premade files which were largely the same except for 
color settings so he could pick those "instead" of directly picking 
colors. It would be like making a second drive have soft links / 
shortcuts / aliases to files on a first drive so you can pick those 
pointer files and claim you did not pick the files themselves.

He challenged me to do something similar... so I made a script that 
looked at the current desktop image and selected colors to match that. 
Unlike his solution I could use ANY desktop image I wanted on the fly... 
no pre-setting what ones to use.

And I am NOT a programmer. Not even a good scripter.

>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth
>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from
>>>> the stone age.
>>>
>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel.
>>
>> Accept you have not. You set ABSURD "standards" based on making the
>> worksheet (singular!) as large (and untested) as you can and then claim
>> this as a "win".
> 
> Like I said, anyone can cherry pick examples to make their choice look
> good. However when it comes down to using sc vs Excel for day to day
> spreadsheet tasks, it's ludicrous to believe people would choose SC over
> Excel.

Exactly right. It would be like me picking Numbers and claiming it is 
better than Excel because it does some things better. For many home 
users Numbers is better, esp. those with low needs in a spreadsheet, but 
for any even moderately serious number crunching Excel blows Numbers away.

>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal
>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream.
>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux.
>>>
>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps?
>>
>> Linux is a great choice for some things... but so are other choices.
>> Choice is good.
> 
> Yes.
> Mainstream desktop computing is not one of the things Linux does well.
> Supercomputer operating systems is one thing Linux does well.

Largely agreed (though if someone wants to use Linux as their desktop 
computer and they say it serves them well I have no issue with that).


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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  Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 09:06 -0400
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 06:17 -0700
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 09:20 -0400
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 06:47 -0700
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 06:54 -0700
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 07:34 -0700
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 08:23 -0500
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 10:07 -0400
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 10:57 -0400
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 11:13 -0400
            Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 17:11 +0000
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 13:28 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 19:13 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:37 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:43 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:21 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:13 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 07:16 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 20:02 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 17:53 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:18 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:15 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:37 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:41 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:20 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 20:03 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:12 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:39 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:54 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 17:34 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 22:23 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 18:36 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:56 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:19 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 18:27 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:37 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:32 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 02:05 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 19:17 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 19:32 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 02:37 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 08:39 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 06:14 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:45 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 15:26 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:49 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:03 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:45 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:30 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 10:53 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:02 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:08 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 14:15 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:19 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 14:23 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:41 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 14:00 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 21:01 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 14:31 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 06:58 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:49 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 08:34 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:48 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 09:05 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 20:00 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 17:29 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 17:59 -0700
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                Re: What is your profession, Owl ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 02:06 +0000
                Are you Chris Caputo ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-23 22:53 -0700
                Re: Are you Chris Caputo ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:13 -0700
                Re: Are you Chris Caputo ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 03:09 -0700
                Re: What is your profession, Owl ? DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 10:28 -0400
                Re: What is your profession, Owl ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 07:47 -0700
                What is your profession, Owl ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-24 07:53 -0700
                Re: What is your profession, Owl ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 15:06 +0000
                Re: What is your profession, Owl ? Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
                Re: What is your profession, Owl ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 11:40 -0700
            Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 19:44 -0400
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:03 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:28 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:39 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 08:49 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:07 +0200
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:11 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:17 +0200
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:37 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 00:37 +0200
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 16:22 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 12:20 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 14:18 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:41 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:58 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-25 07:13 -0500
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:38 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 03:43 +0200
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:58 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 18:58 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:39 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 03:48 +0200
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:56 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 04:14 +0200
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 19:29 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:46 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 12:25 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 09:38 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 10:07 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:12 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 15:38 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 12:58 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 17:30 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 15:19 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:56 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-25 09:48 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-25 07:04 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 08:31 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:39 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 21:10 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 18:50 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 12:39 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-25 08:53 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 13:09 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-25 10:56 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 17:11 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 10:22 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 11:08 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 14:32 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 08:07 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-26 14:44 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 12:10 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-26 16:46 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 10:04 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 13:48 -0400
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                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-27 11:41 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 08:56 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-27 17:08 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 11:17 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-27 16:12 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-27 21:01 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 14:10 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 18:03 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 14:41 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-27 20:26 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-25 06:57 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 16:44 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 10:06 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-25 16:02 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 08:05 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 06:26 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-24 12:47 -0500
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 11:09 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:43 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-25 07:06 -0500
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 05:07 -0700
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:25 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 07:32 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 12:22 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:07 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 10:22 -0700
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 12:00 -0500
            Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 17:24 +0000
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 12:30 -0500
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 18:48 +0000
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:38 -0700
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:45 -0700
            Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 11:12 -0700
            Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 18:28 +0000
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:43 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 13:01 -0700
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-23 14:30 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 14:40 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 15:07 -0700
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 14:51 -0700
              Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 19:57 -0400
                Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:01 -0700
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 16:32 -0700
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 18:20 +0000
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 11:43 -0700
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:44 -0400
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:23 +0000
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 16:57 -0700
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:03 -0700
            Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:30 -0400
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:30 -0400
  Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 12:19 -0500
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 10:26 -0700
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-25 11:02 -0400
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 03:37 +0100
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 20:41 -0700
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 07:50 -0500
          Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 23:43 -0700
    Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 03:34 +0100
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:38 -0700
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 04:00 -0700
      Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 07:49 -0500
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-29 07:22 -0700
        Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 22:56 -0700
  Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:25 -0400

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