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Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, talk.politics.guns, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change
Date 2018-09-26 12:39 -0700
Message-ID <g125ioF208aU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 9/26/18 12:22 AM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Nadegda" <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:pof837$mhp$50@dont-email.me...
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 22:14:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>
>>> Much like man is currently presented during climate change that has been
>>> going on for millions of years, and will continue to change long after
>>> we're gone.
>>
>> https://www.skepticalscience.com/its-not-us.htm
>>
>> ----------
>> Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint
>> on climate change.
>> ----------
>>
>> SPNAK!
> 
> If you think conjecture, assertion, hypothesis, and unsupported claims 
> is a SPNAK! then it's no wonder that you're so stupid.
> 
> There is ZERO proof presented to support the assertions of man made 
> climate change, and the assertions that it's tied to man's activities is 
> just that assertions.

Serious request for you... can you find ANY relevant scientific site -- 
any at all -- which backs your view?

My guess: you cannot.

This is ANOTHER area where you simply are rejecting evidence and 
studies. It is a big difference between the left and right -- the left 
TENDS to accept evidence. There ARE exceptions, such as the many on the 
left who claim vaccinations cause autism, the fear of power lines 
causing cancer, GMO fear, etc. But overall people on the left tend to 
accept science more than those on the right.

> They imply they understand everything about the process,

No, they do not. To be clear you made this up.

> and yet the 
> real world events regularly don't even begin to match the claims these 
> idiots are making about what will occur, when, and by how much. I'm not 
> talking minor errors, but stuff of a magnitude that would be considered 
> 'not even in the ball park' sort of error.

The models have repeatedly proved to be very accurate.

> So again, we see you sold a bill of goods with NO factual support that 
> shows these claims and assertions are even remotely correct.

Your ignorance of the science is not a reason to doubt the science.

> Free Hint: The Earth has been hotter than it is now, within the memory 
> of man, and it's been colder, and all before man's activities could have 
> possibly had any impact on either.

Are you suggesting you thought of the fact there have been fluctuation 
and all the major models and those who have worked on them oddly left 
this out? If so that is a very odd idea! If not, well, what are you even 
suggesting?

> So with Millions of years of climate change and what amounts to a single 
> snapshot understanding of the latest frame of that movie....no one can 
> say whether this change is largely natural, artificial or in-between. 
> Those that claim to know are trying to sell you a pig in a poke.

By all means show the studies that back this view. You MIGHT be able to 
hand-pick some outliers but you will be hard pressed to do so. And, of 
course, even if you do you will be HEAVILY hand picking.

> The fact that their models are wildly off and continue to be would show 
> that there is a serious lack of understanding in the causes, events and 
> results of what drives climate change. Indeed, some models are so 
> crafted that NO MATTER WHAT CONDITIONS YOU INPUT you will get an endless 
> upwards temperature trend for as long as you care to project into the 
> future.

Please name the models you mean.

> In short, the trend is inherent in the model....NOT the data.

You reject the science (evidence, data, logic, etc.). Fair enough.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 05:53 -0400
  Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-17 20:19 -0400
    Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 05:59 -0400
      Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-09-18 11:44 +0100
        Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 07:07 -0400
          Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-09-18 12:57 +0100
            Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 08:04 -0400
              Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-09-18 14:21 +0100
              Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-20 23:10 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-21 23:04 -0400
          Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 09:24 -0400
          Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-09-18 10:41 -0400
          Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-20 23:09 -0400
            Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 09:15 -0400
              Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-21 23:04 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Lunar Opticfibre <jfwaldby@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 00:11 -0600
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-22 08:32 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-25 22:14 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 06:13 +0000
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-26 03:22 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-26 12:12 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-26 12:39 -0700
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-27 02:38 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-27 12:58 -0700
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-27 18:41 -0400
        Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-09-18 10:38 -0400
          Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 22:43 -0700
            Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-09-22 09:55 -0400
        Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 10:34 -0700
      Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 09:23 -0400
        Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 10:26 -0400
          Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 17:53 -0400
            Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-09-18 22:11 +0000
              Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-09-18 18:44 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-09-18 23:02 +0000
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 21:13 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Catalina" <Catalina@beach.sun> - 2018-09-19 00:41 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-19 06:26 -0400
              Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 21:01 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-19 06:28 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 06:48 -0400
                Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-27 13:20 -0500
      Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-09-20 23:07 -0400
        Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 09:16 -0400
        Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Lunar Opticfibre <jfwaldby@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 00:06 -0600
  Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 10:42 -0700
    Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:01 -0400
  Re: A summer of fire, heat and flood puts a focus on adapting to climate change Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-09-22 11:46 +0000

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