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Re: a little bit closer

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: a little bit closer
Date 2018-09-22 17:01 -0700
Message-ID <g0o3e5Fubq8U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 9/22/18 9:47 AM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-09-21, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> The look depends on the window manager.  Pick a different window manager.
>>>
>>> Almost any Linux window manager will work better and often look better
>>> than Windows 10.  The Win 10 desktop has a fair number of bugs and
>>> annoyances.  Give me my fully-configured Fluxbox setup any day.
>>> Far faster and total compliant to my fingerstips.
>>
>> Don't you know that the desktop Linux community should be mocked and
>> ridiculed, because they cannot agree on one "best" desktop environment
>> for all?
>>
>> Those "deep thinkers" are *so* much smarter than everyone else, you
>> see.  If only *they* could dictate and control, everyone would be
>> better-off!
> 
> I don't know who wrote the original post, or what it said, but I'm guessing
> it's "Snit" and he's rambling on about his "consistent UI" horse crap again.
> I think Mac users are fundamentally control freaks and cranks.
> 

Why do you fantasize about me so much? It is creepy and weird.

I say use what you like and my issue with the Linux ecosystem is the 
LACK of choice. I want MORE. I wrote about this (again) a couple days 
ago -- I think in this thread.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-15 16:12 +0000
  Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 12:04 -0700
  Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-15 18:02 -0400
    Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-15 18:11 -0400
      Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 19:22 -0700
      Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-16 11:24 +0000
        Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-16 13:00 -0400
          Re: a little bit closer "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-16 20:39 +0000
            Re: a little bit closer Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-16 21:04 +0000
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 14:33 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 08:55 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 09:09 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:03 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 13:01 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:20 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 13:55 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 11:02 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 11:48 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 16:29 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 13:49 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 14:15 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 17:14 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 14:28 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 19:26 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:46 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 21:43 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 22:03 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 19:11 -0700
                (Sub)Threads drift, big time. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-17 20:23 -0700
                (Sub)Threads are ReConstructed using _ parents (!GrandParents). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-17 19:29 -0700
                Re: (Sub)Threads are ReConstructed using _ parents (!GrandParents). DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 23:12 -0400
                Re: (Sub)Threads are ReConstructed using _ parents (!GrandParents). Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 20:29 -0700
                20 years hard labor, sans food. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-17 21:58 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 14:46 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 19:45 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 19:46 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 11:48 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-17 21:47 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-17 22:53 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:57 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-19 09:47 -0400
            Re: a little bit closer Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-16 23:19 +0200
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 14:48 -0700
            Re: a little bit closer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-17 11:42 -0500
              Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 16:37 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-17 23:37 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 21:24 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 18:55 -0700
            Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 13:19 -0400
              Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 10:35 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 16:31 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 13:59 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:52 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 12:03 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 12:26 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 16:20 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 13:42 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-17 22:10 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 19:26 -0700
          Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 06:58 -0700
            Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 07:28 -0700
            Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-18 22:11 -0400
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 19:33 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 05:53 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-19 09:33 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 06:52 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-19 11:19 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 08:36 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:29 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 08:39 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 09:08 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 13:32 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-22 09:27 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-22 15:01 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-22 20:47 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:01 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:18 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:41 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:47 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 12:12 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-23 00:21 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 10:59 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 11:21 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-23 14:43 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:28 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:56 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 16:04 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 17:07 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-24 09:20 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 06:43 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 14:18 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-23 19:30 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 16:51 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 20:15 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 17:04 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-24 09:26 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 06:58 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 08:56 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-24 12:33 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-24 12:44 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 10:54 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:39 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-25 13:13 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-25 14:26 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 09:00 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:40 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:40 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 11:13 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-25 13:11 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-24 07:53 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:03 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-24 22:32 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-25 12:04 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:25 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-22 21:05 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 10:00 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 10:34 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-19 22:04 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 15:22 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-20 23:55 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-21 04:02 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-21 06:54 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-21 13:31 +0200
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 04:52 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-21 16:07 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 10:53 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 04:37 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 07:24 -0500
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-21 12:45 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-21 07:47 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-21 07:51 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 16:47 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-22 20:13 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 13:30 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 16:06 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-22 17:02 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-22 17:01 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-24 07:33 -0500
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 06:11 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-24 07:54 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-21 12:41 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-21 07:48 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-22 07:08 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-22 14:36 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-23 08:35 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-23 13:58 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 07:41 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-23 07:47 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-23 10:34 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-23 07:44 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 08:13 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-22 14:51 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-23 08:39 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-22 13:43 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 14:01 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 16:51 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-22 20:13 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-24 07:45 -0500
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-24 20:51 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-24 13:55 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 14:16 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-21 12:31 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 06:41 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-21 07:50 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-21 16:01 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-21 10:45 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 11:09 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 22:56 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-22 08:55 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-22 14:51 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-23 08:42 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-21 14:03 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-21 07:38 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 07:44 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-22 03:04 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 20:20 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 01:01 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-22 09:54 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-20 14:58 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 12:41 -0700
            Re: a little bit closer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-19 07:09 -0500
              Re: a little bit closer fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 05:58 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 06:14 -0700
          Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-18 05:31 +0000
            Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-18 17:12 +0000
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 10:44 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:06 -0700
              Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-18 23:05 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-19 04:17 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 21:54 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-19 09:02 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 06:30 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-19 22:08 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 15:37 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-20 23:59 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-21 04:03 +0000
                Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-21 00:50 -0400
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 22:03 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 22:19 -0700
                Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 22:42 -0700
            Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 12:34 -0700
    Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 15:28 -0700
    Re: a little bit closer DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-15 19:24 -0400
      Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 16:32 -0700
      Re: a little bit closer Special Edd <shortbus1963me@mail.com> - 2018-09-15 19:48 -0400
      Re: a little bit closer Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 18:36 -0700

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