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Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

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On 9/8/18 9:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:19:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:30:29 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:59:42 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:37:19 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This guy was an *asshole* of Hadronian proportions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/steve-jobs-exposed-as-an-abusive-
>> creep-
>>>> by-
>>>>>> his-daughter/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
>>>>>>> "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved"
>>>>>>> how great a man, Jobs was.  *So* much "better" than some obscure
>>>>>>> FOSS guy, you know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the best movies I've ever watched about the asshole was
>>>>>> "Pirates of Silicon Valley." I actually put up the movie on PewTube
>>>>>> when the site was still up. Knowing what we've learned today about
>>>>>> him, it's clear that it was a very authentic depiction of his life
>>>>>> and personality and that Noah Wyle did a great job playing him as
>>>>>> the talentless, disloyal, manipulative coward that he was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember thinking that he was an absolutely awful human being and
>>>>>> glad that I was nothing like him... except that we were born exactly
>>>>>> 24 years apart to the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing that's overlooked, what it was like to grow up in that part
>>>>> of the Bay Area at that time. There's no question in my mind this
>>>>> helped make Jobs into what he later became known for being. He may
>>>>> have been genetically predisposed to certain things but that area, in
>>>>> that particular stretch of time,
>>>>> helped to create quite a few weird people.
>>>>
>>>> With all of the excrement on the street, the hippies and the
>>>> homosexuals,
>>>> I don't think I will ever willingly go to San Francisco in my life.
>>>
>>> I don't mean those kinds of things... besides, 50 years ago SF wasn't
>>> dirty like it currently is.
>>
>> Exactly. Then, in the 1970s, the hippy population allowed the homosexuals
>> to take over and you've got yourself an excrement-covered, hobo-populated
>> liberal paradise.
> 
> LOL! No, dude.
> 
> Steve Jobs came after the first incarnation of hippies, he was only 12 during the
> 'Summer of Love'. He probably looked at that in a similar way that I did (I was 9).
> Our older brothers/sisters, friends, etc. were lashing out then, many who came
> after them didn't lash out, at least, not in the same ways. They could see that
> there was a new path which wasn't as rigid and corporate as that of our parents;
> it was being led by hippies who still wanted to eat decently and have a roof over
> their heads (fair weather hippies, so to speak).
> 
>>> But I'm not even talking about SF, the city,
>>> I'm referring to the areas south of the city:
>>>
>>> <https://imgur.com/a/LEpqHDB>
>>
>> How liberal are those areas? Any answer other than "not at all" makes me
>> unwilling to visit it.
> 
> It's probably mostly comprised of what I call 'conditional liberals' ;)
> 

Remember when you used to attack me for using labels. Oh, that is when I 
was noting the GENERAL differences between the two "sides":

* Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a 
focus on investing in the future and building a stronger tie between 
hard work / productivity and financial reward.

Additionally, Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to 
help ensure clean air and water, safe food, and human rights. This 
includes following the scientific evidence about climate change and food 
safety, and things like setting levels of lead and other harmful 
substances allowed, and even to wanting to do research to reduce the 
harm of tools such as cars and guns and swimming pools. This is a form 
of control, and conservatives are right to note that. And they are right 
to note that sometimes these measures are taken too far.

* Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, 
males, heterosexuals, and the wealthy, with a focus on redistributing 
wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that this will 
somehow help others.

Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings 
and what they believe has historically existed (which is often 
incorrect), or even just based on their own religion. This includes 
controlling which consenting adults can marry each other, what a woman 
can do with her own body, and even insisting the government gets to 
define YOUR gender. They also work to create regulations on voting to 
limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a voice they know their 
ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right to call 
conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a 
less defensible one.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 08:37 -0500
  Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:34 -0700
    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 10:41 -0500
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:52 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:14 -0500
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 09:53 -0700
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 08:46 -0500
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 07:11 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 07:31 -0700
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:02 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 11:47 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-07 09:17 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:38 -0500
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 09:54 -0700
      Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 09:29 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:09 -0700
  Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:52 -0400
  #MeToo Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-07 12:17 -0700
    Re: #MeToo SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:51 +0000
      Re: #MeToo benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:29 -0400
        Re: #MeToo % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:32 -0600
          Re: #MeToo benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:47 -0400
            Re: #MeToo % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:55 -0600
      Re: #MeToo Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 20:10 -0700
    Re: #MeToo "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-09-09 13:56 -0400
  Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:48 +0000
    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:59 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:30 +0000
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 08:19 -0700
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 15:41 +0000
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:00 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:12 -0700
              Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 18:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 11:47 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 20:15 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:48 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 20:00 +0000
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:29 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:33 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:10 -0700
        Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:30 -0700
        Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-09 13:32 -0400
          Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-09 17:56 +0000
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 11:08 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 11:36 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 11:21 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:18 -0700
            Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 15:24 -0700
              Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:01 -0700
                Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 16:18 -0700
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:34 -0700
              Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:02 -0700
              Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-09 23:51 +0000
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 18:39 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:17 -0500
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:37 -0700
    Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:45 -0700

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