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Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter.
Date 2018-09-07 09:29 -0700
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On 9/7/18 8:41 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> I recall the fanbois in here, using "logic" worthy of a "-hh" or a
>>> "Steve Carroll", claiming that the millions of mourners "proved" how
>>> great a man, Jobs was.
>>
>> Providing you're even referencing something that I actually wrote
>> (as opposed to a forgery) are you sure you haven't taken anything
>> out of context?
> 
> I didn't say that you or -highhorse made the above specific claim,
> "Steve" (and if I see any hint of snittish arguing, on this point,
> I'll simply snip, unread).

He was doing to you what you do to me, speaking for you, saying what he 
THINKS you would say and then blaming YOU for it.

>> There are ways Jobs could be looked at as "great",
>> depending upon who is looking at what they're looking at, but being
>> a father was not one of them, as anyone who lived in Silicon Valley
>> (as I did during his initial rise in the 70s) is well aware.
> 
> This is beyond being a "bad father", though.  Job was a bad person.
> 
> But being a rotten bastard is a big advantage, in the business world.

I cannot say if his ignored daughter is being fully truthful, but he was 
a shitty father and very immoral in how he treated Woz, at least at 
times (and others, of course). Does not mean his contributions to tech 
are less, but he is hardly a role model over all.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 08:37 -0500
  Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:34 -0700
    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 10:41 -0500
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:52 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:14 -0500
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 09:53 -0700
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 08:46 -0500
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 07:11 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 07:31 -0700
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:02 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-17 11:47 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-07 09:17 -0700
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:38 -0500
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 09:54 -0700
      Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 09:29 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:09 -0700
  Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:52 -0400
  #MeToo Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-07 12:17 -0700
    Re: #MeToo SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:51 +0000
      Re: #MeToo benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:29 -0400
        Re: #MeToo % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:32 -0600
          Re: #MeToo benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:47 -0400
            Re: #MeToo % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:55 -0600
      Re: #MeToo Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 20:10 -0700
    Re: #MeToo "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-09-09 13:56 -0400
  Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:48 +0000
    Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 14:59 -0700
      Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:30 +0000
        Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 08:19 -0700
          Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 15:41 +0000
            Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 09:00 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:12 -0700
              Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 18:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 11:47 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 12:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 20:15 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:48 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 20:00 +0000
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 13:29 -0700
                Re: OT:  Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:33 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:10 -0700
        Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:30 -0700
        Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-09 13:32 -0400
          Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-09 17:56 +0000
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 11:08 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 11:36 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 11:21 -0700
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:18 -0700
            Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 15:24 -0700
              Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:01 -0700
                Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 16:18 -0700
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:34 -0700
              Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:02 -0700
              Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-09 23:51 +0000
                Re: Pretty young girls shouting "can I suck your dick" ?! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 18:39 -0700
            Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:17 -0500
              Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:37 -0700
    Re: OT: Steve Jobs exposed as an abusive creep, by his daughter. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:45 -0700

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