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Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops

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On 5/11/18 9:59 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 10:48:52 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/11/18 9:44 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 5/9/18 2:52 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>> You call that thread (with very few people in it) in where many (most?)
>>>>>>> are saying they don't care,  "the norm"? And the only guy that agreed
>>>>>>> with you has no FB history:"Jon Christopher Spoonamore"
>>>>
>>>>>> Many in that discussion show understanding, and I could not care less
>>>>>> about the history of the people responding.
>>>>
>>>>> LOL! You seem to have forgotten you just called them "the norm".
>>>>
>>>> They seem to be.
>>>
>>>
>>> Right... 4, oh... excuse me, 8 people out of millions and millions
>>
>> No, out of the dozen or so in that discussion. It is not as if "millions
>> and millions" of people participated!
> 
> There are no assurances some of those "dozen or so" aren't just
> you playing with your puppet collection again.

There ARE assurances you are trolling to avoid simple facts:

1) It was the norm of that discussion
2) It was at least double the number of people you said
    (not including me)

As noted, in a REAL advocacy group they are not afraid to talk about 
this issue... they do not feel the need to lie about Linux to try to 
make it seem better than it is. And, of course, they are open to 
disagreement -- there are those who do not see this as an issue and they 
also added comments, and that is fine. Nobody attacked them or insulted 
them in any way.

It is a real advocacy group where Linux is the topic, not insults and 
attacks. And in such a group, yes, it is common for people to understand 
that the UI issues of the Linux ecosystem are real and significant.

Now I do want to make clear that just because it was the norm of THAT 
thread it does not prove it is that commonly understood among Linux 
users -- undoubtedly the people in the group are self-selected and 
likely not representative (the more casual user, for example, is less 
likely to be a part of such a group) and more importantly those who do 
not care about the UI issues are less likely to join such a 
conversation. So while I was correct to call it the "norm" in terms of 
that discussion, it should be noted that this does not prove it is the 
"norm" for all Linux users to understand this issue. In other words, 
without digging through exact wording, this means you were right to note 
it has not been shown to be the "norm" in general, or even that the data 
we have leads to such a conclusion. I might not have been clear about 
that at first.

Notice I have no issue noting that. For me it is not about mindlessly 
attacking you, as your focus in life is about mindlessly attacking me 
(and otherwise obsessing over me).

When I first started responding to you, you were on your "best" 
behavior. Maybe this was to try to pull me back in to giving you another 
chance. Why not go back to that? Stop making mindless, knee-jerk 
accusations and insults. Stop nit picking my every word and playing word 
games and messing with context. Just be a reasonable person.

I have (and am) giving you another chance. You are going out of your way 
to blow it. Why? Are you hoping to get me to stop responding to your 
lies again?


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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(lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-09 04:26 +0000
  Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 22:11 -0700
  Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 22:15 -0700
    Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 23:13 -0700
  Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 06:48 -0500
    Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:11 -0700
      Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-09 20:07 +0000
        Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 13:34 -0700
        Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 13:59 -0700
          Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:06 -0700
          Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:09 -0700
            Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:10 -0700
            Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 14:15 -0700
            Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-10 07:41 +0000
              Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 07:49 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 08:12 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:23 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:30 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:34 -0700
              Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 10:24 -0500
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:24 -0700
              Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 20:17 +0000
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:24 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-10 17:34 -0400
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 14:36 -0700
      Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:05 -0700
        Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 14:13 -0700
          Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:52 -0700
            Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 16:58 -0700
              Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:33 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 19:45 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 21:05 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 23:10 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 19:57 -0700
            Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 09:14 -0700
              Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 09:44 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 09:48 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 09:59 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 10:17 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 10:27 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 11:26 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 09:11 -0700
                Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 11:24 -0700
  Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 20:14 +0000
    Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:23 -0700
    Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-10 22:55 +0000
      Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 16:05 -0700
      Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 02:58 +0000
        Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-11 07:23 -0400
          Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 05:45 -0700
        Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 11:22 -0500
      Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-05-11 13:36 +0100

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