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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops |
| Date | 2018-05-11 09:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <flltqfF8e52U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 5/9/18 2:52 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> You call that thread (with very few people in it) in where many (most?)
>>> are saying they don't care, "the norm"? And the only guy that agreed
>>> with you has no FB history:"Jon Christopher Spoonamore"
>> Many in that discussion show understanding, and I could not care less
>> about the history of the people responding.
> LOL! You seem to have forgotten you just called them "the norm".
They seem to be. While you say only four people, if you actually read
the thread, it is clearly the norm there are more than four people, but
even if you pick nit with the term "norm", it is clear your claim of
merely four people is flat out wrong. Here are eight (different
people... and not including my comments):
EzeeLinux
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I just spent a rather frustrating morning trying to
figure out how to get QT applications and GTK
applications to look like they belong together on
Ubuntu 18.04 with the GNOME and Unity desktops… I’d
like to find a new-user friendly way of doing it but
it eludes me. I’ve followed a bunch of suggestions
in forums but none has worked satisfactorily. I know
it is possible because Linux Mint, Ubuntu MATE and
any distribution running the KDE Plasma desktop come
with everything setup to look right. KDE offers
separate controls for QT and QTK so you can really
dial it in while GNOME offers nothing and Ubuntu
didn’t bother to try to address the issue
downstream. Some folks don’t care, of course, but
it’s a real bummer to me. Your thoughts?
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Person 2
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IMO.... It seems Basic-GUI-Settings do tend to take
a back-seat to functionality. These QT/GTK issues
reminds that there is also a lack of Sound-Themes
and Settings for DE's. For me, I find it very
important to be able to set sounds-events in a DE.
When I am doing a 1,000 things at one time, it's
nice to get audio-notification of something going
on. Especially if you are in another room. Cinnamon
has come closest to fixing this audio issue. In any
event, it's time for DE standards to be drafted. All
DE's need to meet basic standards.
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Person 3
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I tried some years ago... and never tried after
that. I just accepted it. (I used to run Arch with
Xfce4, now I mainly run straight up Debian with
Xfce4.)
Trying to make things look good would be a dream -
but therein lies madness.
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Person 4
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with the path gnome is taking with CSD it will just
be a dream we once had because such applications
dont even get along with each other i just switch to
KDE and wait for Gnomes demise
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Person 5
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I was happy to see the no-csd fix is in the Xubuntu
18 repository so can be installed without resorting
to editing files. I hate the way apps do the
no-borders, trying to look like Windows thing! Ugly
and horrible to use!
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Person 6
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Short: I don't know a solution, but I admire the
problem. Also: Adwaita and Breeze look similar
enough in an GTK Environment as long as you don't
change things
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Person 7
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Same here with openSUSE with KDE Plasma. It works
fine with Breeze, Breeze Dark, and Arc Dark themes.
But if you are someone like me who hates flat themes
and want something elegant like Oxygen, it will make
all your GTK apps look like crap
-----
Person 8
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I only run a couple of QT apps so I don't really
care too much. Having said that I do prefer a
consistent looking desktop and a little baffled why
some clever programmer can't fix this issue.
-----
Your response will be to snip. This is 100% predictable. You will not
face the fact that, yes, it is -- if not the norm -- at least a very
commonly expressed idea in that discussion and your claim of "four" was
clearly wrong by AT LEAST 100%
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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(lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-09 04:26 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 22:11 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 22:15 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 23:13 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 06:48 -0500
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:11 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-09 20:07 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 13:34 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 13:59 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:06 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:09 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:10 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 14:15 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-10 07:41 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 07:49 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 08:12 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:23 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:30 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:34 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 10:24 -0500
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:24 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 20:17 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:24 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-10 17:34 -0400
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 14:36 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:05 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 14:13 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:52 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 16:58 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:33 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 19:45 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 21:05 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 23:10 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 19:57 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 09:14 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 09:44 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 09:48 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 09:59 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 10:17 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 10:27 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 11:26 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 09:11 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 11:24 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 20:14 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:23 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-10 22:55 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 16:05 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 02:58 +0000
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-11 07:23 -0400
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 05:45 -0700
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-11 11:22 -0500
Re: (lack of) Consistency in commercial desktops William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-05-11 13:36 +0100
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