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Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do.
Date 2018-05-09 09:44 -0700
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On 5/9/18 8:56 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 9:29:22 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/9/18 8:24 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> Based on your standard of someone is more honest if they cannot be
>>>> quoted lying as easily as someone else
>>> ???!
>>>
>>> Who said they "cannot"?
>>
>> You are the one claiming that when you look at how easy it is to quote
>> someone lying this indicates how honest they ACTUALLY are.
> 
> Learn to read. I'm the one claiming that they are engaging in bias.
> 
>>> I'm pointing out what Politifact is*doing*
>>> which is cherry picking.
>>
>> Nope.
> 
> They clearly are.

In a way you cannot show? Because they come to conclusions you do not 
agree with?

Bottom line: you are making a claim you cannot show evidence for.

I *agree* Sanders is far more honest than is Clinton (which is not to 
say he never lies or is otherwise dishonest). But Clinton is a very good 
liar... and it shows in her ratings there. The ratings are NOT a sign of 
how honest someone is but how often they can be show to lie.

Think of it this way: when comparing Clinton and Sanders they show 
Clinton with a higher count of "lies" (for the purpose of this, the 
bottom three categories). Does that mean their showing more honest 
comments means she is less of a liar? Nope.

But you looked at percentages... which one could also argue. After all 
they do not look at all comments.

So you can use the same data and show show either one of them as being 
more of a liar than the other. The data itself makes no such conclusion.

>> To show this you would have to show what comments they are NOT
>> rating
> 
> LOL! Sure, Snit ;)
> 
> I showed what they *are* rating on a page  Politifact  claims:
> "provides a good opportunity to see how each candidate has done
> on the Truth-O-Meter" during their campaigning.

How they have don on the Truth-O-Meter... not how honest they are 
overall. Again, looking at the SAME data it is just as reasonable to 
conclude things in either direction!

> Have you actually read any of their assessments? Some of them are
> outright laughable. Sure Trump is dishonest, but so is Politifact, HRC
> and all the rest... and none of them are particularly "clever" at it.

You keep going on and on and on about their ratings without noting which 
rating you even disagree with.

Here, let me help you: if you disagree with a rating of theirs then 
point to it. Heck, maybe we will reach agreement on thinking they are 
wrong on some specific point. More than that, though, if you want to 
push the idea they are biased, showing biased opinions would be a great 
way to do so!


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 06:54 -0500
  Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-02 16:42 +0200
    Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 09:28 -0700
  Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-02 11:08 -0400
    Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 08:16 -0700
    Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-02 11:50 -0500
      Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-02 17:17 -0400
        Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 15:08 -0700
          Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-02 22:43 +0000
            Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-02 19:28 -0400
              Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 17:31 -0700
              Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-03 19:21 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 17:05 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:42 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 19:02 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 08:03 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:18 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:27 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:55 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:57 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:13 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:19 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:19 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:05 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 21:33 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 18:47 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:21 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 08:04 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 16:05 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:07 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 16:20 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:33 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 22:00 -0700
            Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 17:11 -0700
              Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-03 01:03 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 18:15 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-03 01:24 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 18:33 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-03 01:45 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 18:54 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 07:13 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:54 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 11:40 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:30 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 09:08 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 08:22 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:53 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-03 19:22 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 21:33 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 19:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:23 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:28 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:00 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:02 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:06 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 08:05 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:36 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:25 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:29 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:02 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:07 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:21 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:25 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:06 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-04 05:49 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:37 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-04 10:32 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 08:35 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 15:57 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:06 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 10:29 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 10:03 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:00 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:27 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:14 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:18 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 11:53 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:37 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:03 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:20 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:36 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 14:44 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:54 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 17:22 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 09:06 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:52 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 10:32 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 10:39 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:00 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 11:12 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:19 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:40 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:11 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:43 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:55 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:20 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:03 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:37 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:50 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:51 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-06 22:24 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 15:33 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-06 22:37 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 15:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-06 22:52 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 22:59 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:02 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:04 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:06 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:20 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:23 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:38 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 21:17 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 08:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 15:38 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:11 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:25 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 13:43 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 07:07 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 15:29 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:19 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 19:47 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:06 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 21:16 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 15:54 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 23:24 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 17:30 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-06 12:42 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 11:18 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:47 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 09:14 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:56 -0700
                What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-06 10:27 -0700
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 10:43 -0700
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 10:54 -0700
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:12 -0600
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:22 -0700
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:41 -0600
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:12 -0700
                Re: What's useful to Michael Glasser is very, -very- different... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:23 -0700
                Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-06 11:39 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:57 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:16 -0600
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:20 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:01 -0600
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:26 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 09:28 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:06 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 10:16 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:25 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 10:30 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:37 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 10:48 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:54 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 11:08 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 11:19 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 12:07 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 12:37 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 13:08 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 13:44 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 08:25 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 11:27 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 11:37 -0700
                BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-06 13:15 -0700
                Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:18 -0700
                Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:32 -0700
                Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:35 -0700
                Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:41 -0700
                Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:49 -0700
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:58 -0600
                Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:15 -0700
                "CrackHead" is a pejorative -- it might be natural. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-06 13:34 -0700
                Re: "CrackHead" is a pejorative -- it might be natural. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:37 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:41 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 11:11 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:46 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 11:00 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 10:52 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:44 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:35 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:41 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:47 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 19:17 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:08 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:16 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 14:42 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:46 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 14:49 -0600
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:56 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 09:09 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:55 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 10:40 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 10:49 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 11:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:25 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 07:09 -0700
                MainStream Media worships BlueEyed Norway. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-05 09:04 -0700
                Re: MainStream Media worships BlueEyed Norway. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-05 12:36 -0400
                Re: MainStream Media worships BlueEyed Norway. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:42 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 07:25 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:15 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 10:40 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-07 17:23 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:29 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-07 15:20 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 12:40 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 12:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 03:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 17:40 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-07 04:14 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 04:24 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 09:48 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 08:50 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:18 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-07 17:36 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:44 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 07:02 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 15:58 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:09 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:19 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 10:13 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:13 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:26 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 16:57 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 10:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 13:50 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:07 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:37 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:28 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:39 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:14 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:55 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 12:22 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:59 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 13:40 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 13:58 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 19:05 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 19:53 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:04 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:00 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 08:24 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:29 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 08:56 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 09:44 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 10:23 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 10:27 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 11:12 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 11:41 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:16 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 13:51 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:03 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 14:11 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:47 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 16:30 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:14 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:37 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 18:20 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 19:55 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 20:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 20:38 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 20:39 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 08:10 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:21 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:28 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:33 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 10:09 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:20 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 10:54 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 20:50 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 20:02 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:29 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 10:25 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:16 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:40 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:20 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:14 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 11:47 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:49 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 17:18 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 10:19 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 12:29 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:59 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 02:05 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:41 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 17:49 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:07 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:17 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 18:20 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:23 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:28 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 18:43 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:10 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:14 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:34 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:56 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:31 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:42 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 18:55 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:20 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:47 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:16 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:45 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:28 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:01 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-08 15:33 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 08:00 -0500
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:33 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:24 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:44 -0700
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 08:09 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
            Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 17:27 -0500
        Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 07:12 -0500
          Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 11:46 -0400
      Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 16:37 -0500
        Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-03 19:31 -0400
          Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:58 -0500
            Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:27 +0000
              Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-04 05:49 -0400
                Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-05 19:10 -0500

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