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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. |
| Date | 2018-05-05 19:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fl6ea5Fp1gpU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:41:53 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/5/18 9:35 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> What point do you think you are making? That a single hand-picked
>>>> example of a black person is representative of... what? The point you
>>>> ARE making is you can engage in confirmation bias... but I suspect you
>>>> wanted to make another point.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile I show actual evidence. Here is more for you (though I know
>>>> you will not learn from it):
>>>>
>>>> http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of
>>>> unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that
>>>> the probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about
>>>> 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by
>>>> police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling
>>>> show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in
>>>> the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties
>>>> showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. Finally, analysis of
>>>> police shooting data as a function of county-level predictors suggests
>>>> that racial bias in police shootings is most likely to emerge in
>>>> police departments in larger metropolitan counties with low median
>>>> incomes and a sizable portion of black residents, especially when
>>>> there is high financial inequality in that county. There is no
>>>> relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and
>>>> crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial
>>>> bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable
>>>> as a response to local-level crime rates.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What does that last statement tell you? In such areas, given that stats
>>> show a police officer is 18.9 times more likely to be killed by a black
>>> male (who, at 6% commit 42% of police officer deaths), you wouldn't
>>> think it prudent for them to exhibit a "bias" if they want to come home
>>> from work that night? It's a war zone, the things we'd all like to
>>> believe should be done can't be done, there'd be no one left alive to do
>>> them.
>>
>> You are backing racial quotas of a sort...
>
> I'm pointing out how they undoubtedly *must* be forced to look
> at things in a way that you and I will never have to if they want to
> live through the day.
They no more have to judge people by the color of their skin than colleges
and employers have to with affirmative action.
You back such judging when it goes against someone with dark skin but not
when it benefits them.
>> a type of affirmative action if you will.
>
> That's not affirmative action.
>
> If you consider that these areas are war zones then the question
> of how you define "bias" comes into play. Most definitions are
> based on the concept of prejudice:
>
> preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
>
> When your group is dying at the lopsided rate officers do, I'm not
> sure one even could logically argue it's not based on reason or
> actual experience.
You are STILL backing judging people by the color of their skin (but only
when it is harmful to blacks).
>> I am against judging people based on the racial group they
>> are in.
>
> As a person who isn't many times more likely to die at the hands
> of a black person in a low income, high crime area, you have that
> luxury. In a war zone such 'judging' is often a matter of life and
> death so I'd imagine taking public heat isn't a high priority. That
> said, due to the 'public heat' over shooting of "unarmed" blacks,
> which doesn't always mean they are cooperative, a lot of officers
> have decided not to engage at all, making the streets less safe.
> The stories that don't get as much coverage are the ones where
> the black residents complain about a lack of police presence. I
> see this only getting worse, not better.
You are STILL backing blaming innocent people based on the color of their
skin.
>> How do you reconcile treating people differently based on their racial
>> group here but not doing so on, say, college entrance or hiring practices?
>
> Generally speaking, in those contexts you're not being shot at
> by people who are killing you at a much higher rate than you're
> killing them.
Most black people are not shooting anyone!
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Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:57 -0700
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Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 16:20 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:33 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 22:00 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 17:11 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-03 01:03 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 18:15 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-03 01:24 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 18:33 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-03 01:45 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-02 18:54 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 07:13 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:54 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 11:40 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:30 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 09:08 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 08:22 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:53 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-03 19:22 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 21:33 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 19:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:23 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:28 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:00 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:02 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:06 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 08:05 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 10:36 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:25 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 20:29 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:02 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:07 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 04:21 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 21:25 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:06 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-04 05:49 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 09:37 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-04 10:32 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 08:35 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 15:57 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 09:06 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 10:29 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 10:03 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:00 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:27 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:14 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:18 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 11:53 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:37 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:03 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:20 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:36 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 14:44 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:54 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 17:22 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 09:06 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:52 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 10:32 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 10:39 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:00 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 11:12 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:19 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:40 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:11 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:43 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:55 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:20 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:03 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:37 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:50 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:51 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-06 22:24 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 15:33 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-06 22:37 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 15:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-06 22:52 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 22:59 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:02 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:04 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:06 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:20 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:23 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-05-06 23:38 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 21:17 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 16:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 08:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 15:38 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:11 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:25 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 13:43 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 07:07 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 15:29 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:19 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-05 19:47 +0000
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Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-06 12:42 +0000
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Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:37 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 10:48 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:54 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 11:08 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 11:19 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 12:07 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 12:37 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 13:08 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 13:44 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 08:25 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 11:27 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 11:37 -0700
BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-06 13:15 -0700
Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:18 -0700
Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 13:32 -0700
Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:35 -0700
Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 14:41 -0700
Re: BrownEyed "Cuba, North Korea and Nepal" appear to be your ideal. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:49 -0700
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 12:58 -0600
Re: Is BlueEyed Norway your "more equal, low-carbon" ideal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 12:15 -0700
"CrackHead" is a pejorative -- it might be natural. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-06 13:34 -0700
Re: "CrackHead" is a pejorative -- it might be natural. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 14:37 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:41 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 11:11 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:46 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 11:00 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-06 10:52 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:44 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 10:35 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:41 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:47 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 19:17 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 13:08 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:16 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 14:42 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:46 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 14:49 -0600
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 13:56 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 09:09 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 09:55 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 10:40 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 10:49 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 11:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-06 11:25 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 07:09 -0700
MainStream Media worships BlueEyed Norway. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-05 09:04 -0700
Re: MainStream Media worships BlueEyed Norway. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-05 12:36 -0400
Re: MainStream Media worships BlueEyed Norway. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-05 10:42 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 07:25 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:15 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 10:40 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-07 17:23 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:29 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-07 15:20 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 12:40 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 12:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 03:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 17:40 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-05-07 04:14 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 04:24 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-07 09:48 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 08:50 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:18 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-07 17:36 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-07 10:44 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 07:02 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 15:58 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:09 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:19 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 10:13 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:13 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:26 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 16:57 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 10:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 13:50 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:07 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:37 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:28 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:39 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:14 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:55 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 12:22 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:59 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 13:40 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 13:58 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 19:05 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 19:53 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:04 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:00 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 08:24 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:29 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 08:56 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 09:44 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 10:23 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 10:27 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 11:12 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 11:41 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 12:16 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 13:51 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:03 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 14:11 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 14:47 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 16:30 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:14 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:37 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 18:20 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 19:55 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 20:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 20:38 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 20:39 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 08:10 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:21 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:28 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 09:33 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 09:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 10:09 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:20 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 10:54 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 20:50 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 20:02 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 17:29 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 10:25 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 07:16 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:40 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-09 08:20 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:14 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 11:47 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:49 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 17:18 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 10:19 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 12:29 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:59 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 02:05 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 12:41 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 17:49 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:07 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:17 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 18:20 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:23 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:28 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 18:43 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:10 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:14 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:34 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 12:56 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:31 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-08 13:42 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-08 18:55 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:20 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:47 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:16 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 14:45 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 14:28 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 11:01 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-08 15:33 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-09 08:00 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:33 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-08 09:24 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 09:44 -0700
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-04 08:09 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-04 14:28 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 17:27 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-03 07:12 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-03 11:46 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 16:37 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-03 19:31 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 19:58 -0500
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-04 03:27 +0000
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-04 05:49 -0400
Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-05 19:10 -0500
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