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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Where's The Advocacy? |
| Date | 2018-04-22 08:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fk3nsvF1tteU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <fk1sqjFk4pbU1@mid.individual.net> <FmQCC.381693$By2.156751@fx30.am4> <cq4pdd51ikrnp1snj13jq03d55tmkrdkuv@4ax.com> <qF0DC.424878$9S2.381301@fx26.am4> <5q5pddtbt3qti70rp41vbuti8gf08sbina@4ax.com> |
On 4/22/18, 7:09 AM, a.m wrote: >>> It would be fairly ridiculous to suggest that Apple hasn't innovated >>> >> in any way. By releasing a GUI in 1982 (with the Lisa) when computers >>> >> weren't yet powerful enough to operate, constantly, in such an >>> >> environment, they definitely innovated. By having a trash can in that >>> >> GUI and cater to people who might regret deleting something, they >>> >> innovated. By taking technologies which were widely available but >>> >> packaging them in such a way that they would be portable, last a whole >>> >> day and be intuitive to use (in the iPod), they innovated. By putting >>> >> a whole computer and the technologies that most people needed at the >>> >> time into the monitor as they did with the iMac generations, they >>> >> innovated. By taking an iPod and adding phone capabilities to it in a >>> >> move that seemed so damned obvious to everyone except manufacturers >>> >> themselves, Apple innovated. By taking an existing idea in the tablet >>> >> and making it a lot less cumbersome and a lot more intuitive, they >>> >> innovated. >>> >> >>> >> People will claim that they couldn't innovate because they didn't >>> >> create the technologies, but they had the courage to actually package >>> >> them in a comprehensive way and sell them to the public. We can't >>> >> discard those realities no matter how much we might hate the company. >> > >> >In other words Apple find convenient way to package technology, >> >represent it to people. That's not innovation, rather selling business. >> >They are good at that. > If my neighbour and I were both farmers selling apples but I sold more > by putting them in a convenient plastic bag in bundles of six rather > than asking people to buy them by the unit, would I be innovating? Irrelevant to the point that Apple did a lot of innovation. Posted elsewhere, but in case you missed it, here are just some of the things added by Apple (as well as some by NeXT and MS): * Double clicking * Trash can (or the like) * Graying out inactive items * Checkmarks next to menu items * Keyboard shortcuts for menu items * Drag and drop * Full file system in GUI (as icons) * GUI based hierarchical folder structure * Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation * The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.) * Control panel to set system settings * Pull down menus * Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets) * Meta-data associations with icons (data about the data being associated with the file) * Self-redrawing windows (at Apple) and later windows where the image was still held in memory even when not visible, making the redraw be instantaneous from the perspective of a user (called double buffering and done at NeXT) * X to close a window (this is from NeXT - I was surprised by that) Even MS has added some: * Contextual (right click) menus * Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias) * The Start button So what has Linux added? Virtual desktops existed elsewhere before Linux even existed... so what innovations have we seen there? It is a great playground of ideas -- one of its big advantages -- but what has it added? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-17 00:32 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 08:18 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-17 13:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 13:46 -0700
Amazon, Google, Apple, MicroSoft, China, and Russia. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-17 15:04 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 07:00 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 05:01 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 06:40 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 08:53 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 13:29 -0500
At Amazon, Profit == Waste. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-18 07:18 -0700
Re: At Amazon, Profit == Waste. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 10:32 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:59 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 13:18 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:25 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 13:34 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 15:35 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 23:07 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:19 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-18 14:33 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 13:23 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-19 03:59 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 06:58 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-19 11:27 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 11:52 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 03:52 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 04:16 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 06:58 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 05:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:09 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 06:22 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 08:31 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:56 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 09:23 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-20 11:06 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 16:19 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 09:33 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:49 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 10:25 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:31 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 11:03 -0700
Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-20 12:57 -0700
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-20 15:30 -0500
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:40 -0700
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:47 +0000
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:32 -0700
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 16:45 -0500
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-20 18:33 -0400
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:59 -0500
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:33 -0400
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-21 18:17 +0000
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 19:38 -0500
Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 17:48 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:38 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 15:14 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 08:28 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 08:57 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 17:10 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 17:14 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:23 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:41 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:31 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:24 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 12:30 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:33 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 14:00 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 15:21 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:36 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 08:43 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:03 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 09:37 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:45 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 10:30 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:46 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 11:51 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 07:09 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 05:17 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-24 18:00 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 15:14 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 15:50 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 16:02 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 00:02 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:15 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 02:38 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-25 10:55 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-25 11:39 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:43 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 11:49 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 10:24 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:48 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:18 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:13 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:34 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:39 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 08:48 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:11 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:27 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 16:19 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 09:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 11:44 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 10:16 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 13:07 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 11:50 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:42 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 22:48 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 03:55 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 04:33 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 15:23 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 12:05 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:49 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 22:45 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 19:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-04-20 22:54 +0100
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:46 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 11:13 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 11:37 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:37 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:00 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 04:19 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 14:53 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 12:04 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 15:49 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 15:57 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 12:38 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 19:56 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 14:01 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 23:15 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:06 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 15:18 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 11:25 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:01 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:18 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 09:32 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:44 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 16:45 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 15:38 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 18:04 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:33 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 07:12 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 12:44 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-24 14:36 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 08:41 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:58 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:27 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:30 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 14:00 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 15:22 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:36 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 08:43 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:42 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-22 11:58 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:14 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 12:29 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:41 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:38 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 23:17 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 09:50 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:19 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:08 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:07 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 09:59 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 14:06 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:09 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-22 15:13 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 11:24 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:29 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 18:02 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:33 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:26 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 15:30 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:34 -0700
What Apple gave us. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-23 10:03 -0700
Re: What Apple gave us. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 10:33 -0700
Re: What Apple gave us. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:47 -0700
Re: What Apple gave us. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:21 -0700
Re: What Apple gave us. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-23 15:35 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:25 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:21 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:10 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 13:25 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:42 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 23:19 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:08 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:06 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 00:53 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 18:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:09 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:11 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 13:41 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:39 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 14:57 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 13:22 -0700
Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-20 13:59 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 14:47 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-20 22:34 +0000
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:40 -0400
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 05:50 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 07:41 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:40 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:39 +0000
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:30 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 12:22 -0700
60 search providers pre-installed across more than 90 languages. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-21 01:24 -0700
Re: 60 search providers pre-installed across more than 90 languages. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 02:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 18:03 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:39 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:07 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:11 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:15 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 09:31 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:47 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 10:00 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:44 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:21 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:37 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 17:17 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 11:03 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:41 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:52 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:24 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:28 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:38 -0400
Apple can't invest, not like Samsung or Amazon; it's profit sans reason. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-20 07:51 -0700
Re: Apple can't invest, not like Samsung or Amazon; it's profit sans reason. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 08:28 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:31 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 08:41 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-20 10:17 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 21:08 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 14:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:43 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:40 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 08:50 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:10 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 16:51 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 03:01 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 03:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 17:53 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:28 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 00:20 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-18 10:38 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:03 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-18 22:19 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 21:48 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 07:33 -0500
Hey COLA Tard, ... it is the Linux DE. Or should it be: UBUNTU/Linux DE? Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 05:42 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 05:54 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-19 11:43 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 20:34 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 19:13 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 02:59 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:35 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:17 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 12:07 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 13:34 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 18:59 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 14:17 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 12:16 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:28 -0700
Russell is the freak! Please die and get it over with, Poco. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 02:27 -0700
Re: Russell is the freak! Please die and get it over with, Poco. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 02:30 -0700
Use Linux anyway you want to, Poco! Moi certainly does. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 05:24 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:27 -0700
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