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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: What Apple gave us. |
| Date | 2018-04-23 11:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fk6mi8Fmd5eU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <cq4pdd51ikrnp1snj13jq03d55tmkrdkuv@4ax.com> <qF0DC.424878$9S2.381301@fx26.am4> <5q5pddtbt3qti70rp41vbuti8gf08sbina@4ax.com> <fk3nsvF1tteU2@mid.individual.net> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.23--10.03am.Seattle.2018> |
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On 4/23/18, 10:03 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: >> [ Apple gave us: ] >> * Double clicking > > A _really_ bad idea, too many false positives. There are false positives -- people unsure when to single or double click. Agreed. But that does not mean it is a bad idea... and even if it was, it is still a norm that Apple innovated and is used by Windows and most Linux systems (though a fair number of Linux systems have single click to activate files). >> * Trash can (or the like) > > Never use it. My Desktop is pure black, blank. But most desktop distros do have it. >> * Graying out inactive items > > Bad idea, I use IceyBlue (color) instead. White space is not always white. Grayed out items are not always gray. >> * Checkmarks next to menu items > > This idea is older than dirt. Came from the Lisa team. <https://arstechnica.com/features/2005/05/gui/4/> ----- Other innovations from the Lisa team included the idea of checkmarks appearing next to selected menu items, and the concept of keyboard shortcuts for the most frequently used menu commands. ----- >> * Keyboard shortcuts for menu items > > Never use it; I assign key strokes ( mouse buttons, actually ), > to what I use most; to wit: Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG Does not change the fact it is the norm on Linux distros. >> * Drag and drop > > I'll give you is one but, unless you're a 12 year old girl, > Apple isn't known for its mice, not like Logitech. Apple did not invent the mouse... and I would agree their mice suck. > Jef Raskin refined it from Xerox Star's "click-move-click". > Steve Jobs fired him, and took his place on the Mac team. > >> * Full file system in GUI (as icons) > > Bad idea; I hate, _hate_, -HATE- it when I see icons, > instead of text (details). Again, not relevant to what Linux distros have. >> * GUI based hierarchical folder structure >> * Editing documents with direct mouse manipulation > > Xerox Star, Lilith, lots of others, did it before Apple. Would love to see evidence that you did the ol' "Select and Effect" on those systems. >> * The clipboard (and later one with multiple versions of the same data >> so you can paste plain text or formatted text, etc.) > > Are you high on your own supply ? ! > Larry Tesler coined "cut, copy, and paste" back in 1973. Evidence? >> * Control panel to set system settings > > Again, this idea is older than dirt. Can you show it from before the Lisa? >> * Pull down menus >> * Desktop accessories (now known as widgets or gadgets) > > PopUps were around long before Apple. Again, can you show it from before the Lisa? >> [ MicroSoft gave us: ]: >> * Contextual (right click) menus > > This is good, provided you can customize it, fully. Most have no desire or need, but, sure, for some users greater customization is a good thing. >> * Drag indicators (to show copying, moving, making a shortcut / alias) > > RightButtonDragging gives me the option of copying or moving. But what about drag indicators? >> * The Start button > > Don't use it, Don't see it, Never; and I run Windows 10, fully updated. Again, not relevant to what Linux distros have (though this is less common than many of the others). >> So what has Linux added? > > They kept the Unix legacy alive; no small feat. At least on the desktop macOS is the most common UNIX or UNIX-like system. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:08 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:06 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 00:53 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 18:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:09 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:11 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 13:41 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:39 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 14:57 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 13:22 -0700
Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-20 13:59 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 14:47 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-20 22:34 +0000
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:40 -0400
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 05:50 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 07:41 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:40 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:39 +0000
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:30 -0700
Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 12:22 -0700
60 search providers pre-installed across more than 90 languages. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-21 01:24 -0700
Re: 60 search providers pre-installed across more than 90 languages. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 02:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 18:03 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:39 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:07 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:11 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:15 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 09:31 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:47 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 10:00 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:44 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:21 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:37 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 17:17 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 11:03 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:41 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:52 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:24 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:28 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:38 -0400
Apple can't invest, not like Samsung or Amazon; it's profit sans reason. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-20 07:51 -0700
Re: Apple can't invest, not like Samsung or Amazon; it's profit sans reason. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 08:28 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:31 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 08:41 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-20 10:17 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 21:08 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 14:20 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:43 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:40 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 08:50 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:10 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 16:51 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 03:01 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 03:12 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 17:53 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:28 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 00:20 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-18 10:38 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:03 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-18 22:19 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 21:48 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 07:33 -0500
Hey COLA Tard, ... it is the Linux DE. Or should it be: UBUNTU/Linux DE? Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 05:42 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 05:54 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-19 11:43 -0400
Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 20:34 +0000
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 19:13 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 02:59 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:35 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:17 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 12:07 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 13:34 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 18:59 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 14:17 -0500
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 12:16 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:28 -0700
Russell is the freak! Please die and get it over with, Poco. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 02:27 -0700
Re: Russell is the freak! Please die and get it over with, Poco. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 02:30 -0700
Use Linux anyway you want to, Poco! Moi certainly does. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 05:24 -0700
Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:27 -0700
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