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| Subject | Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics, sci.electronics.design |
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
| Organization | Watcom Pro Ltd. |
| Message-ID | <fFbwS.3797$VDn8.1872@fx14.ams4> (permalink) |
| Date | 2026-10-04 02:17 +0800 |
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On 10/4/2026 1:16 AM, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote: > > Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> posted: > >> On 10/3/26 12:33, Stefan Ram wrote: >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote or quoted: >>>> You are perfectly validated if you feel like correcting me on this in- >>>> terpretation of the evidence, and when you do, please feel free to sug- >>>> gest a book on antennae construction, both electromechanical, and bio- >>>> logical. >>> >>> (not directly responding to the quoted paragraph, but explaining >>> that use of "GPS") >>> >>> "GPS" here is a /species-for-genus synecdoche/. This is a type of a >>> trope where an instance of a concept is used for the concept, which >>> often happens when the instance is more familiar than the concept. >>> >>> For example, people use "Kleenex" for any type of facial tissue. In >>> the same manner, "GPS" here is anything that helps you find your way. >>> >>> >> >> So a poor analogy is justified by GPS now being more familiar than an >> ordinary compass. > > Yes, and St*f*n R*m has it exactly the wrong way round. When Kleenex appeared > on the market it was the only facial tissue of that type, and so it was > natural to apply the word to other similar products. On the other hand compasses, > road maps and direction signs existed centuries before Global Positioning > Systems, and there is no on reason earth to transfer the name of a very modern > device to things that have always been available. So "In the same manner" is > about as wrong as one can be. > How do you figure that? If I started to talk about Galileo, wouldn't you assume I was talking about /Galileo di Vincenzo Bonaiuti de' Galilei/ rather than the European satellite navigation system? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation_system) And isn't it perfectly natural to explain it as a G.P.S. equivalent? Furthermore, does it matter that animals on this planet don't communi- cate with satellites? Now I forgot the original phrase, but I'd pre- fer something like /like a G.P.S. system/ [1] rather than pretend pre- historic animals actually communicated with our current era satellites. Don't Russia and China already have their system too? And for that matter, doesn't Elon? It's not like G.P.S. is the only satellite navigation system in the world. It's not 1991 anymore. Best wishes, and happy satellite navigation! [1] With a redundant /system/, of course, if I remember my expansion of the acronym correctly. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:13 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 23:34 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 16:57 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-03 10:33 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-10-03 15:36 +0200
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 16:07 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-10-03 18:23 +0200
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 07:24 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-04 11:37 -0700
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-10-05 18:04 +1100
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-10-03 19:03 +0200
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 07:24 +0000
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Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 02:17 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-10-04 05:24 +1100
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 02:29 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 02:30 +0800
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Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 01:51 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 18:02 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:10 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 18:27 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-10-04 11:18 -0700
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:29 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 18:43 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-10-04 13:13 -0700
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Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-10-03 01:46 +1000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-02 10:37 -0700
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Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-10-02 19:31 +0200
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 06:50 +0000
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-10-04 05:15 +1100
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 02:25 +0800
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-10-04 02:46 -0700
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:56 +0800
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Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-10-04 03:57 +1100
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-10-03 10:21 -0700
Re: 97-million-year-old fossils reveal the earliest known animal "GPS" Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-10-04 05:00 +1100
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