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Re: gcc_centric C code

Subject Re: gcc_centric C code
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
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From bartc <bc@freeuk.com>
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Organization virginmedia.com
Date 2018-04-26 23:34 +0100

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On 26/04/2018 22:40, Dan Purgert wrote:
> bartc wrote:
>> [...]
>> Anyway I don't care about other people's gigantic projects; they can use
>> whatever systems they like.
>>
>> I care about the ones /I/ want to build where this stuff is forced down
>> my throat.
> 
> Wait, didn't this thread start with you downloading someone else's
> project?
> 
> Their project, their choices.

Open source project.

I wanted to use the GMP numeric library a few years back. Binary dlls 
for Windows were elusive. But the source bundle for gmp went down 
exactly this path of configure files and the rest.

I expended considerable efforts following the exact recommendations to 
build this on Windows (download MSYS etc etc). It didn't work. And I 
never managed to produce a .dll.

The configuration script for that - remember this just decides what 
macros to give to the compiler - was 30,000 lines (it would take a whole 
ream of paper printed out). It would be a laugh if all I needed was 
three macros and to then compile half a dozen modules.

So, I wasn't able to use gmp as I didn't want to have an such an erratic 
dependency in my programs.

With my work I use all sorts of crappy tools of my own to get my 
development done. But I would not inflict them on anyone else. If the 
requirement is simply to get a working binary, then that should be made 
as straightforward and streamlined and problem-free as possible.

And actually, now I just give out binaries. People have actually 
complained that my one-file sources are too hard to build. I've reduced 
the job of installing a new kitchen to hammering in one nail, but people 
have apparently forgotten how to use a hammer.

Or they just didn't want to acknowledge that it was, actually, quite 
something.

-- 
bartc

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gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-25 16:21 +0100
  gcc_centric C code Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 08:34 -0700
  Re: gcc_centric C code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-04-25 16:41 +0100
    Re: gcc_centric C code Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 16:19 +0000
      Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-25 18:02 +0100
        Re: gcc_centric C code Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-04-25 17:15 +0000
          Re: gcc_centric C code Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-25 12:33 -0500
          Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-25 20:51 +0100
            Re: gcc_centric C code supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-25 13:01 -0700
              Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-25 21:21 +0100
            Re: gcc_centric C code jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-25 13:45 -0700
        Re: gcc_centric C code Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 17:20 +0000
      Re: gcc_centric C code supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-25 10:30 -0700
        Re: gcc_centric C code Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-25 12:35 -0500
          Re: gcc_centric C code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-25 10:54 -0700
            Re: gcc_centric C code Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-04-25 20:27 +0200
              Re: gcc_centric C code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-25 12:38 -0700
              Re: gcc_centric C code Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-25 19:53 -0500
                Re: gcc_centric C code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-25 18:13 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-04-26 15:16 +0000
                Re: gcc_centric C code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-27 08:17 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-04-26 08:03 +0200
                Re: gcc_centric C code Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-04-26 14:30 +0000
                Re: gcc_centric C code jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-26 08:26 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-04-26 19:04 +0200
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 07:48 +1200
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 21:08 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 08:18 +1200
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 21:44 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 09:01 +1200
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 23:16 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 10:27 +1200
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 23:48 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 20:41 +1200
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-27 11:51 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-28 07:32 +1200
                Re: gcc_centric C code Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 04:34 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 23:05 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-04-27 00:52 +0200
                Re: gcc_centric C code supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-26 16:23 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-28 11:24 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-28 01:42 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-04-26 21:40 +0000
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 23:34 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 14:13 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 14:16 -0700
            Re: gcc_centric C code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-27 08:08 -0700
              Re: gcc_centric C code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-27 09:11 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-27 09:49 -0700
          Re: gcc_centric C code supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-25 12:31 -0700
            Re: gcc_centric C code Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-04-25 20:13 +0000
              Re: gcc_centric C code supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-25 13:50 -0700
        Re: gcc_centric C code Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-04-25 18:02 +0000
      Re: gcc_centric C code Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 22:39 -0700
    Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-25 18:36 +0100
      Re: gcc_centric C code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-04-25 23:15 +0100
        Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 02:02 +0100
          Re: gcc_centric C code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-25 18:28 -0700
          Re: gcc_centric C code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-04-26 11:45 +0100
            Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 14:53 +0100
              Re: gcc_centric C code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-04-26 23:38 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-27 00:31 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-04-27 00:47 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-27 02:28 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 03:44 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-03 13:57 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 11:02 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 11:07 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 11:13 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-05-03 19:50 +0100
                Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 13:37 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 13:44 -0700
                Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 10:25 -0700
            Re: gcc_centric C code Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 07:01 -0700
          Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-04-26 14:51 +0200
            Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2018-04-26 07:09 -0700
              Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-04-26 17:05 +0000
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 18:38 +0100
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way 1alvinalbrecht1@gmail.com - 2018-04-26 11:34 -0700
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 21:36 +0100
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way C W Rose <cwr@seckford.org> - 2018-04-27 19:23 +0100
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-28 14:34 +0100
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 10:32 -0700
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-30 10:16 -0700
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-30 19:41 +0100
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-30 12:11 -0700
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-30 19:14 +0000
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-30 19:12 +0000
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-30 21:19 +0100
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 19:23 -0700
                Re: Clearly everyone else likes to do things the hard way Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-04-26 19:45 +0200
      Re: gcc_centric C code luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 21:56 -0700
        Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 11:06 +0100
          Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 11:27 +0100
      Re: gcc_centric C code antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2018-04-26 17:00 +0000
  Re: gcc_centric C code Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 09:26 -0700
  Re: gcc_centric C code Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-04-26 12:39 +0000
    Re: gcc_centric C code gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-04-26 13:09 +0000
  Re: gcc_centric C code Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-04-26 13:26 +0200
    Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-26 18:03 +0100
    Re: gcc_centric C code Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 14:32 -0700
  Re: gcc_centric C code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-27 09:41 -0700
    Re: gcc_centric C code bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-27 19:37 +0100

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