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| From | Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue |
| Date | 2017-07-21 11:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <eteuhvF2bbjU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 2017-07-21 10:53, rickman wrote: > Joerg wrote on 7/21/2017 12:20 PM: >> On 2017-07-20 19:07, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue... >>> >>> <http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/07/20/community-colleges-looking-to-drop-algebra-as-a-requirement-sounds-a-little-anti-science/> >>> >>> >> >> >> My jaw dropped when they did that. "Not enough kids can pass the test >> .... >> oh, let's just drop it then". >> >> Time for better schools, and certainly not the schools the unions want. > > In reality, if you aren't on a science track, why learn algebra? Machinists can hardly be called scientists. Yet those who do not master algebra will soon hit a hard ceiling when moving up the ranks and into serious CNC territory. They will be left behind by their peers who do master algebra, who will then land the better jobs and enjoy higher pay. The same goes for people who go into accounting, business management, sales, marketing, and so on. They will eventually have to come up with a formula here and there, jockey with a database, stuff like that. When they can't they'll hit a hard career ceiling. > ... It's a > bit like requiring science majors to take Medieval history. Nice to > know, but how useful will it be? There's only so many hours of class > time available to get a degree. I seem to recall the EE program at U of > Md had some 130 hours of requisites. Other programs get you out the > door in 120 credits with room for electives. I think at Drexel EE was a > five year program. > I am all for ditching nonsensical state-mandated stuff but tossing out STEM courses is the perfect path to mediocrity. Down the hill. Which ultimately will result in higher structural unemployment and a diminishing labor force participation rate. It's the same nonsense as easing off on requiring all classes to be taught in English. That results in a 2nd class work force. People who will likely never land a really well-paying job. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-20 19:07 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-21 02:43 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jack4747@gmail.com - 2017-07-21 02:59 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-07-21 09:39 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> - 2017-07-21 09:56 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 10:08 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-24 03:56 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-07-21 11:52 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-07-21 03:37 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-21 08:30 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 08:38 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-21 09:02 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> - 2017-07-21 09:10 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-21 09:13 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 13:47 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-21 22:59 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-21 09:11 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 09:26 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-21 10:46 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-21 23:04 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-07-21 09:44 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 10:24 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 10:29 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 13:48 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-07-21 13:16 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 13:46 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 15:03 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 15:31 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 16:14 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 19:11 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-21 20:51 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-21 23:08 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-24 09:51 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-24 21:35 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-24 04:01 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-21 11:48 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 11:58 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-21 23:57 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 19:02 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-22 00:30 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 01:04 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-22 09:39 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 09:09 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-22 08:42 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-22 17:10 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 12:11 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-22 12:15 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-22 20:10 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-07-23 22:33 +0200
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-22 20:09 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 19:32 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 01:05 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-22 09:45 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 09:11 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-22 17:20 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-07-22 09:41 +0100
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 09:13 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-24 04:06 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 16:07 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:13 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-21 11:11 -0500
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 09:29 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-21 12:08 -0500
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-21 10:57 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-21 23:13 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 10:26 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 10:32 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 10:56 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 11:09 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 11:02 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 11:13 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-21 11:40 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 12:54 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-21 15:14 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-21 23:20 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-21 23:16 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-22 13:26 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-22 20:20 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-07-22 11:31 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 09:20 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 13:53 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 11:13 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 11:51 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 12:09 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-21 14:05 -0500
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 12:18 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-21 15:20 -0500
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 14:14 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:33 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 12:45 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:21 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 12:37 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-07-21 14:09 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-21 14:19 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-07-21 14:38 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 15:12 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-24 04:13 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-24 10:01 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-25 03:33 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 07:29 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 08:38 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 11:06 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 11:28 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 12:01 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 12:30 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 12:37 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 12:54 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 13:26 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 13:34 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 13:50 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 14:03 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 14:19 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-25 14:50 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-25 15:12 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-26 04:20 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-25 21:04 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-07-26 09:25 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-07-26 13:45 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-26 21:43 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 19:06 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-26 04:09 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-26 16:44 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-27 10:24 +0800
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-26 19:36 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-28 13:09 +0800
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 22:42 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-28 06:54 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-07-28 21:03 +0000
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-28 14:16 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-31 05:29 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 17:59 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-28 22:32 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-31 05:27 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-28 22:30 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-29 20:02 +0800
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-29 10:03 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-29 22:07 +0800
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-29 10:55 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-07-29 08:05 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> - 2017-07-26 19:37 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-27 05:51 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com> - 2017-07-27 06:09 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-07-28 06:40 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-07-28 21:25 +0000
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 17:50 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 21:35 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-07-28 12:58 +0800
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-08-01 02:19 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-07-28 20:21 +0000
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 22:39 -0400
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-07-27 22:07 -0700
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2017-07-21 13:12 -0500
Re: OT: Algebra is a civil rights issue bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-21 17:20 -0400
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