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Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy?

Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Date	2015-08-25 22:53 -0700
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Subject	Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy?
From	Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>

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On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 11:10:23 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 1:03 PM, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > The so-called dark energy represents anti-gravity which is explained
> > by negative mass density in vacuum under both concepts of GR and
> > Newtonian.  Besides, electrical attraction between matter and
> > antimatter should overwhelm any repulsion in any gravity derived
> > quantities.  It looks like someone has failed to study
> > electromagnetism again.  <shrug>
>
> > How is the dark energy construed to exist?  Well, it is a brainchild
> > of the following four things where every single one must be true.
> > <shrug>
>
> > **  General Relativity
>
> > This has been shown as a manmade fiasco by Koobee Wublee.  The
> > hypothesis lacks any mathematical consistencies but with very
> > favorable interpretations to experiments.  Mercury's perihelion
> > advance is a complete joke.  It depends on how one derives the
> > quantity, and since Le Verrier's time, there has never been another
> > experimental verification.  Traveling through curved space, a photon
> > cannot be deflected if the starting and the ending points are in flat
> > space.  So, the only contribution to photon deflection from the
> > Schwarzschild metric is gravitational time dilation which should
> > agree with Newtonian result treating photons as classical particles
> > with mass.  The list goes on.  <shrug>
>
> > **  Chandrasekhar limit
>
> > In a binary system where a star cannibalizes on its hapless companion,
> > the cannibal will explode when its mass reach a certain limit that is
> > the Chandrasekhar mass.  Thus, all Type Ia supernovae are expected to
> > flare up with the same amount of mass and thus energy.  They become
> > the standard candle of the cosmos to gage distance.  This is still in
> > its theoretical stage.  <shrug>
>
> > **  Luminosity
>
> > According to any experimentation with light, the energy is quantized
> > which can be modeled as individual particles delivering a certain
> > amount of energy according to the frequency (or color).  Talking
> > luminosity of light (especially at such a great distance) becomes
> > problematic.  Thus, a man-made definition of what the observed
> > luminosity of Type Ia supernovae must be done so.  So, how bright the
> > supernovae are is subject to interpretations.  <shrug>
>
> > **  Hubble Law
>
> > By far, the weakest link of this accelerating expanding universe is
> > the Hubble law.  It states (strictly based on observation) that
> > linearly the farther a galaxy is further away the more red-shift the
> > spectrum is going to be.  In the 30's, Hubble concluded this law based
> > on relatively primitive technology that can only go out to 100 million
> > light years at the most.  If the previous two concerns (Chandrasekhar
> > limit and luminosity) are indeed correct and valid, and if the Hubble
> > law goes by a square function instead of linear, one can conclude no
> > accelerating expansion of our universe.  <shrug>
>
> It's remarkable that in all the lip-flapping that went on past this 
> point, you didn't mention at all the real experimental rationale for the 
> acceleration of the expansion of the universe.

What experimental rationale?  Does Odd Bodkin aka PD means expected outcome of experimental verifications to continue the religion of GR?  <shrug>

> You are hopelessly out of touch with the basics of relativity.

Koobee Wublee understands the religion of GR inside out.  While the Einstein dingleberries including Odd Bokdin aka PD are worshipping the Cosmological constant, Koobee Wublee can show how this scripture of GR can simply be derived from Newtonian concept.  <shrug>

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Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 11:23 -0500
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:59 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 11:03 -0700
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 13:10 -0500
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 22:53 -0700
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:18 -0500
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 23:56 -0700
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 07:17 -0500
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-29 02:29 +0200
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-26 11:20 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-26 16:12 -0400
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-27 10:25 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 11:11 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 05:52 -0700
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 06:27 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:54 -0700
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 16:27 -0700
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 17:14 -0700
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 17:25 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-26 21:18 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 19:51 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 00:46 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 03:50 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:06 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 16:00 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:10 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 18:54 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:28 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 16:53 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 19:05 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-29 11:38 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-29 14:42 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 13:29 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-30 17:24 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 22:04 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-31 00:26 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 21:45 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-31 01:35 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 08:55 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 14:10 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 14:29 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 17:47 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:43 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 20:31 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 19:08 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 23:49 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 05:25 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 13:02 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 19:08 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:01 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 10:21 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 11:38 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-28 18:43 +0000
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 11:38 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 11:38 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:07 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:12 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 15:50 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 14:44 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 19:37 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 19:47 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 23:41 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 02:57 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:31 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-08-28 09:05 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 16:56 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:07 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:19 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:54 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 19:39 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 08:15 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-31 12:32 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 11:09 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 15:04 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-28 19:10 +0000
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-28 19:11 +0000
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:52 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-28 17:15 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:51 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-29 03:26 +0200
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 18:49 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 23:43 -0700
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-26 21:10 -0400
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 20:43 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-27 01:03 -0400
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 07:59 -0500
  Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-08-26 09:17 -0700
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:44 -0700
  Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700
    Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-08-26 09:43 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-26 13:41 -0400
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-08-26 11:36 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-27 06:41 -0700
  Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-05 12:55 -0500
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-05 18:36 +0000
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-05 16:39 -0400
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:39 -0500
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-17 20:44 +0000
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-05 15:55 -0500
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-05 21:29 +0000
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-05 12:04 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 12:53 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:38 -0500
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 22:23 -0700
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-07 12:28 -0500
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 11:50 -0700
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-08 11:36 +0200
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:26 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-09 09:35 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:03 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 04:27 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 05:09 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 08:29 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-09-10 18:29 +0000
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 18:47 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 23:10 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 00:34 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 05:11 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 23:05 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-10 15:27 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-11 16:28 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-18 09:38 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:55 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:47 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 20:55 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-18 11:51 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-10 09:42 -0400
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 10:06 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-09 10:18 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-09 19:30 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-09 19:45 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? fuller.david@hotmail.com - 2015-09-09 21:05 -0700
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 12:21 -0500
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:59 -0700
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 13:22 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 12:43 -0700
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 09:33 -0500
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:21 -0700
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-07 19:26 +0000
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:34 -0500
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 21:30 +0200
    Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 10:45 -0500
      Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-09 00:28 -0500
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 08:30 +0200
        Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 09:42 -0500
          Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-09 08:16 -0700
            Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 10:45 -0500
              Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 20:14 +0200
                Re: Antimatter is the new dark energy? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 20:17 +0200

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