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Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales

From 7 <7@enemygadgets.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, uk.misc, uk.politics.misc, uk.comp.os.linux
Subject Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales
Followup-To comp.os.linux.advocacy, uk.misc, uk.politics.misc, uk.comp.os.linux
Date 2016-10-17 21:39 +0000
Organization enemygadgets.com
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Desk Rabbit wrote:
 
> So 

Ooo! PRicky Touchy Troll!

It seems I know and you don't know anything. What's new troll?


Read the original post and weep if you must:


Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales
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The biggest selling CPU boards of all time are those that have a debugging
port for Uboot and systems that ship with stock Linux kernels.

These in turn have made the companies that make CPUs and release developer
boards with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel the most
successful on the planet displacing all other competitors in the same market.

The lesson for Linux gadget companies is to release ALL their hardware with built in
Uboot serial debugging port, and use stock Linux kernels. Dump the uboot
and Kernels to some download link to comply with GPL.
Then you got the makings of a successful product.

What tends to happen is that people with time and tinkering
experience upgrade the Kernel and improve on deficiencies and make
secondary products that you can use to improve your own product,
or it may create secondary sales, or it may lead to entire new
class of products that you can make with all the new drivers, and hardware
the tinkerers have got working for your product.

For the fabless semiconductor companies in China for example,
this has led to complete world domination with working CPUs and
numerous hardware on a time scale that no one have been able to match.

Some of these companies are making so much money they no longer
want to make money by making any of their own gadgets. Instead they make
completely new customized boards, with serial debug port, Linux kernel
and uboot as a package for about $2000 for anybody
that wants to pay this start up cost. They can turn around these
new products in days to weeks.
These ventures usually turn into $1 million orders within months.
The time scales and time frames are just unbelievable.

For western companies that want to make use of these
incredible resources, they need to have their own Linux teams ready
to accept new hardware and add on their own software to make
their IoT devices to finished products in months to make profit.
To make the known formula work for your products,
leave in the serial debug port, and dump uboot and Linux to some
download site to satisfy the GPL and you got a product that will
sell and sell for years to come.

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Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-16 22:02 +0000
  Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 17:16 +0100
    Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-17 18:44 +0000
      Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 21:06 +0100
        Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-17 21:39 +0000
          Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 09:50 +0100
            Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 12:22 +0000
              Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 14:27 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 07:54 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 14:35 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 15:49 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:48 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 16:52 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:43 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 11:56 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 10:29 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:05 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:47 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 10:57 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-18 22:53 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:55 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 19:05 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 23:15 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 10:27 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-19 05:38 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 09:50 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 09:37 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:39 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:37 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 09:48 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:34 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 22:04 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 13:41 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 16:57 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:39 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 16:21 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 17:27 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 21:28 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 16:33 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 16:32 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 12:48 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:34 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 13:05 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 20:13 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:51 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 20:55 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 14:10 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 17:19 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 14:22 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 17:28 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 18:13 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:27 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 18:39 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:43 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 12:14 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 09:33 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 09:36 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 09:40 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 15:09 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 10:23 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:56 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:21 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 10:24 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 09:37 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 10:42 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 10:47 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:17 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 10:01 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:49 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:25 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-20 16:26 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 11:46 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 16:56 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:20 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:14 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 16:24 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:56 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 10:35 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-20 20:43 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:55 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 06:55 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:36 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 10:06 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:53 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 08:17 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:20 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 18:26 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:31 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:36 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 14:07 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:12 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 13:55 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:58 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 13:01 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 19:44 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 19:12 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 16:43 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:15 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 20:11 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:48 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 10:28 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:09 -0700
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                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:01 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 14:12 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 14:35 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:37 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 13:00 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 16:54 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 14:21 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 17:27 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 21:32 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 18:41 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:36 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:19 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:22 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 16:49 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 21:16 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 23:05 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-20 19:34 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 20:46 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:31 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:20 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:11 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-21 16:45 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:54 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-21 23:09 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 19:21 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 19:20 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 01:25 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:28 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 10:18 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 14:40 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:56 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:30 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 16:59 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 09:37 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:59 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:13 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:50 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:23 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:05 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:28 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:35 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:18 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:22 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 12:17 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 08:33 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:39 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-19 23:27 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-19 22:34 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:42 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-19 22:55 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:59 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:37 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 10:07 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:01 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:22 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 18:41 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-19 18:40 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 19:49 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 19:10 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 20:17 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 07:04 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 09:52 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:25 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 16:55 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 16:10 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 17:55 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 18:28 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:01 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 20:29 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 13:57 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 15:17 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 15:12 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-19 23:03 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:26 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:41 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 18:15 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:28 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 16:57 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 14:08 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 09:35 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 14:08 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 10:21 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 14:42 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:42 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:24 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 18:27 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 21:58 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 09:34 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-21 10:42 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-21 07:04 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 10:20 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-21 10:25 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 15:35 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:45 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 23:06 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 09:37 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:10 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:48 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:47 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:52 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-20 09:54 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 11:19 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-20 10:55 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:43 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:01 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 16:05 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 21:01 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 19:33 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:40 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 10:32 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:19 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:28 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:06 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 19:35 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:43 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 20:07 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:48 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 20:51 +0000
                Says the hypocrite and retard known as Turdv. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:03 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 16:30 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 18:37 +0200
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  Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 12:47 +0100
    Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 14:09 +0200
      Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 14:36 +0100
    Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:41 +0000
      Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-20 09:57 +0100

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