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Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales

From Desk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, uk.misc, uk.politics.misc, uk.comp.os.linux
Subject Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales
Date 2016-10-17 21:06 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <nu3avu$4na$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org> (permalink)
References <e6ibn3FeeviU1@mid.individual.net> <nu2th0$fdl$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org> <e6kkh8FfnmU1@mid.individual.net>

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On 17/10/2016 19:44, 7 wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
> 
>>> Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel
>>> improves hardware sales
>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> The biggest selling CPU boards of all time are those that have a
>>> debugging port for Uboot and systems that ship with stock Linux kernels.
>>>
>>> These in turn have made the companies that make CPUs and release
>>> developer boards with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel the
>>> most successful on the planet displacing all other competitors in the
>>> same market.
>>>
>>> The lesson for Linux gadget companies is to release ALL their hardware
>>> with built in Uboot serial debugging port, and use stock Linux kernels.
>>> Dump the uboot and Kernels to some download link to comply with GPL.
>>> Then you got the makings of a successful product.
>>>
>>> What tends to happen is that people with time and tinkering
>>> experience upgrade the Kernel and improve on deficiencies and make
>>> secondary products that you can use to improve your own product,
>>> or it may create secondary sales, or it may lead to entire new
>>> class of products that you can make with all the new drivers, and
>>> hardware the tinkerers have got working for your product.
>>>
>>> For the fabless semiconductor companies in China for example,
>>> this has led to complete world domination with working CPUs and
>>> numerous hardware on a time scale that no one have been able to match.
>>>
>>> Some of these companies are making so much money they no longer
>>> want to make money by making any of their own gadgets. Instead they make
>>> completely new customized boards, with serial debug port, Linux kernel
>>> and uboot as a package for about $2000 for anybody
>>> that wants to pay this start up cost. They can turn around these
>>> new products in days to weeks.
>>> These ventures usually turn into $1 million orders within months.
>>> The time scales and time frames are just unbelievable.
>>>
>>> For western companies that want to make use of these
>>> incredible resources, they need to have their own Linux teams ready
>>> to accept new hardware and add on their own software to make
>>> their IoT devices to finished products in months to make profit.
>>> To make the known formula work for your products,
>>> leave in the serial debug port, and dump uboot and Linux to some
>>> download site to satisfy the GPL and you got a product that will
>>> sell and sell for years to come.
>>>
>>
>> Got an example of one of these boards returning $1 million dollar orders?
> 
> Yes.
> 

So share it to back up your claim otherwise it's just a load of
unsubstantiated nonsense which you are well known for spouting.

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Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-16 22:02 +0000
  Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 17:16 +0100
    Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-17 18:44 +0000
      Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 21:06 +0100
        Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-17 21:39 +0000
          Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 09:50 +0100
            Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 12:22 +0000
              Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 14:27 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 07:54 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 14:35 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 15:49 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:48 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 16:52 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:43 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 11:56 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 10:29 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:05 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:47 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 10:57 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-18 22:53 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:55 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 19:05 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 23:15 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 10:27 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-19 05:38 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 09:50 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 09:37 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:39 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:37 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 09:48 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:34 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 22:04 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 13:41 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 16:57 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:39 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 16:21 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 17:27 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 21:28 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 16:33 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 16:32 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 12:48 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:34 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 13:05 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 20:13 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:51 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 20:55 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 14:10 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 17:19 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 14:22 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 17:28 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 18:13 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:27 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 18:39 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:43 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 12:14 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 09:33 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 09:36 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 09:40 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 15:09 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 10:23 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:56 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:21 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 10:24 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 09:37 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 10:42 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 10:47 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:17 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 10:01 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:49 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:25 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-20 16:26 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 11:46 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 16:56 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:20 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:14 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 16:24 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:56 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 10:35 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-20 20:43 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:55 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 06:55 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:36 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 10:06 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:53 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 08:17 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:20 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 18:26 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:31 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:36 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 14:07 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:12 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 13:55 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:58 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 13:01 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 19:44 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 19:12 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 16:43 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:15 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 20:11 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:48 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 10:28 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:09 -0700
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                Re: The truth about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 11:45 -0700
                Re: The truth about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 20:20 -0400
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                Re: The truth about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 23:12 -0400
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                Re: The truth about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 18:48 -0700
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                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:01 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 14:12 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-20 14:35 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:37 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 13:00 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 16:54 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 14:21 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 17:27 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 21:32 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 18:41 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:36 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:19 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:22 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 16:49 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 21:16 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 23:05 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-20 19:34 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 20:46 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:31 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:20 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:11 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-21 16:45 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:54 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-21 23:09 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 19:21 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 19:20 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 01:25 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:28 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 10:18 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 14:40 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 07:56 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:30 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 16:59 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-20 09:37 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 14:59 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:13 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:50 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:23 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:05 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-20 09:28 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:35 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:18 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:22 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 12:17 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 08:33 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:39 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-19 23:27 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-19 22:34 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:42 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-19 22:55 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:59 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:37 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 10:07 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:01 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:22 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 18:41 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-19 18:40 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 19:49 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 19:10 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-18 20:17 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 07:04 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 09:52 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:25 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 16:55 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 16:10 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 17:55 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 18:28 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:01 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 20:29 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-19 13:57 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 15:17 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-19 15:12 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-19 23:03 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 18:26 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:41 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 18:15 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 12:28 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 16:57 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-20 14:08 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 09:35 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 14:08 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 10:21 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 14:42 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:42 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 20:24 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 18:27 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 21:58 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 09:34 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-21 10:42 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-21 07:04 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-21 10:20 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-21 10:25 -0500
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 15:35 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:45 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-20 23:06 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-21 09:37 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-21 13:10 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:48 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:47 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:52 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-20 09:54 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-20 11:19 +0200
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-20 10:55 +0100
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:43 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:01 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 16:05 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 21:01 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 19:33 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 13:40 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 10:32 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 15:19 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:28 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 19:06 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 19:35 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:43 -0700
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 20:07 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Deplorable Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-19 15:48 -0400
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 20:51 +0000
                Says the hypocrite and retard known as Turdv. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:03 -0600
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-18 16:30 +0000
                Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 18:37 +0200
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  Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 12:47 +0100
    Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 14:09 +0200
      Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 14:36 +0100
    Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-19 18:41 +0000
      Re: Shipping hardware with Uboot serial debug port and stock Linux kernel improves hardware sales Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-20 09:57 +0100

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