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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

From "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is Witchcraft
Date 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
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On 21/09/2016 13:14, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 20.09.2016 01:56, schrieb Smiler:
>
>>>>>> I can make biblical type prophesies as accurate as any in the bible.
>>>>>> I prophesy, with 100% certainty, that it will rain within the next 24
>>>>>> hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, yes. But the value of a prophecy increases with its usefulness.
>>>>
>>>> Do tell of a useful biblical prophesy, one not so vague as to be
>>>> useless.
>>>>
>>>>> If you are able to correctly predict the lottery numbers, you will
>>>>> certainly get more for your prophecies than for your weather forecast.
>>>>
>>>> Where did the bible make a prediction as specific as the lottery
>>>> numbers?
>>>
>>> The bible does not make predictions, you did.
>>
>> So "The meek shall inherit the Earth" isn't a prediction in your world?
>>
>>> You wrote:
>>> [Quote]
>>> "..I prophesy, with 100% certainty, that it will rain within the next 24
>>>    hours."
>>> [\Quote]
>>
>> Yep. No guesswork needed. It will again rain within the next 24 hours.
>> In fact, it will rain every day, for the remainder of this year.
>> Prove me wrong.
>
> Don't want....
>
> A statement like yours is true, because you failed to limit its
> validity. E.g. you have not specified, what 'rain' actually means.
>
> Does it also cover 'marshmallow rain'?
>
> And you have not specified the location and the time.
>
> So you made a valid prediction, which is of no value whatsoever.
>
> The value is higher, if the prediction is more specific.

Bravo.

And that is precisely the problem with biblical prophesy.

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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:20 +0000
  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:20 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:36 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:26 +0000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:06 +0200
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:19 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:22 +0200
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 23:56 +0000
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 00:18 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:32 +0000
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 05:14 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 14:15 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-09-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-22 11:04 -0600
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 14:10 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-22 17:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-20 17:58 -0400
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 01:03 +0000

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