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Re: New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting storage for the grid

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benj <none@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/13/2016 10:47 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting
>> storage for the grid
>>> http://phys.org/news/2016-01-battery-molten-metals-low-cost-long-lasting.html
>>>
>>> http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2016/newbatteryma.png
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>>
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>>> A novel rechargeable battery developed at MIT could one day play a
>>> critical role in the massive expansion of solar generation needed to
>>> mitigate climate change by midcentury. Designed to store energy on
>>> the electric grid, the high-capacity battery consists of molten
>>> metals that naturally separate to form two electrodes in layers on
>>> either side of the molten salt electrolyte between them. Tests with
>>> cells made of low-cost, Earth-abundant materials confirm that the
>>> liquid battery operates efficiently without losing significant
>>> capacity or mechanically degrading?common problems in today's
>>> batteries with solid electrodes. The MIT researchers have already
>>> demonstrated a simple, low-cost process for manufacturing prototypes
>>> of their battery, and future plans call for field tests on
>>> small-scale power grids that include intermittent generating sources
>>> such as solar and wind.
>>>
>>> The ability to store large amounts of electricity and deliver it
>>> later when it's needed will be critical if intermittent renewable
>>> energy sources such as solar and wind are to be deployed at scales
>>> that help curtail climate change in the coming decades. Such
>>> large-scale storage would also make today's power grid more resilient
>>> and efficient, allowing operators to deliver quick supplies during
>>> outages and to meet temporary demand peaks without maintaining extra
>>> generating capacity that's expensive and rarely used.
> 
> Usual MIT geek nonsense.  So this battery to store all that "solar" 
> power supposedly generated by mid-century needs to have a fossil fuel 
> fire built under it to keep the salts and metals melted. Great thinking 
> nerds! Too bad it's a really OLD idea no used for obvious reasons 
> breathless idiot journalism to the contrary not withstanding.
> 
> Sam, you are so Easily impressed by a bunch of hot air.
 
For a great example of how these things work out in reality, check out
the Ivanpah solar plant just outside of Las Vegas.

Even though it is in the desert, the output is far less than expected,
it is burning huge amounts of natural gas to get the boilers started
in the morning, it is causing birds flying over it to burst into
flames, and it is a giant hazard to navigation to pilots flying in
to Las Vegas.

Your typical green disaster.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting storage for the grid Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 21:47 -0600
  Re: New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting storage for the grid jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-14 04:56 +0000
  Re: New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting storage for the grid benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 02:19 -0500
    Re: New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting storage for the grid jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-14 18:12 +0000
  Re: New battery made of molten metals may offer low-cost, long-lasting storage for the grid "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 05:33 -0800

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