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Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics
Date 2016-06-02 12:40 +1000
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On 29/05/2016 8:05 PM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light postulate has two aspects:
>
> 1. Any light moving in a vacuum has the same constant speed, c =
> 299,792 kilometers per second, as measured by any observer.

The first postulate is that the laws of physics be the same for all 
observers.

> http://rt.com/news/225879-light-speed-slow-photons/ "Physicists
> manage to slow down light inside vacuum (...) ...even now the light
> is no longer in the mask, it's just the propagating in free space -
> the speed is still slow. (...) "This finding shows unambiguously that
> the propagation of light can be slowed below the commonly accepted
> figure of 299,792,458 metres per second, even when travelling in air
> or vacuum," co-author Romero explains in the University of Glasgow
> press release."
>
> http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2015/01/23/Scientists-slow-down-light-particles/1191422035480

They've shown that the group velocity of light is a function of its 
transverse spatial structure. But what is "transverse" is observer 
dependent, so the underlying physical law can still be the same.

Whether it is, of course, is something for the experimenters to look at, 
but this experiment as it stands does not violate the first postulate.

Sylvia.

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Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-29 03:05 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-29 11:30 -0700
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-29 12:11 -0700
      Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-29 12:13 -0700
        Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 20:35 +0300
          Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 19:53 +0200
            Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 21:10 +0300
              Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 21:02 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 22:32 +0300
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 21:58 +0200
              Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 12:34 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-02 21:49 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 16:39 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-02 23:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:28 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-03 18:21 +0200
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-30 05:57 -0700
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 00:41 -0700
      Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 05:17 -0700
        Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-31 06:03 -0700
          Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 07:06 -0700
            Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-05-31 19:46 +0200
              Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 12:16 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-05-31 21:24 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 18:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-31 23:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-01 08:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 18:27 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-01 13:21 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-03 11:07 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-03 09:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-04 06:52 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-04 12:45 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-05 10:32 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 11:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-05 21:34 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 14:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-05 07:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-05 16:40 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-05 17:43 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-06 08:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-06 08:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-06 08:30 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-06 09:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-06 15:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-07 06:11 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 06:15 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 07:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-08 07:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-08 21:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-08 21:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 11:40 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-09 17:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 19:36 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 08:06 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 22:24 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 07:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-12 05:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 09:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 10:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-13 07:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 09:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 10:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-13 12:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 14:03 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-14 13:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 16:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-15 06:23 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 16:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-13 13:04 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-13 20:09 +0200
          Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 15:10 -0700
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-04 13:13 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 09:19 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-06-02 12:40 +1000
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-02 02:53 -0700
      Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 04:48 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-02 02:32 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-06-08 09:22 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-06-09 06:56 -0700

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