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Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics

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Date	2016-05-29 12:11 -0700
From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject	Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >
> > Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light postulate has two aspects:
> >
> > 1. Any light moving in a vacuum has the same constant speed, c = 299,792 kilometers per second, as measured by any observer.
> >
> > 2. If the observer were to hurry towards the light source (his speed changes), he would again measure the same constant speed, c = 299,792 kilometers per second.
> >
> > The first aspect has been disproved - the speed of light travelling in a vacuum is not a constant:
> >
> > http://phys.org/news/2016-03-optical-slower.html
> >
> >
> > http://rt.com/news/225879-light-speed-slow-photons/
> >  "Physicists manage to slow down light inside vacuum (...) ...even now the light is no longer in the mask, it's just the propagating in free space - the speed is still slow. (...) "This finding shows unambiguously that the propagation of light can be slowed below the commonly accepted figure of 299,792,458 metres per second, even when travelling in air or vacuum," co-author Romero explains in the University of Glasgow press release."
> >
> > http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2015/01/23/Scientists-slow-down-light-particles/1191422035480
> >  "The speed of light is a limit, not a constant - that's what researchers in Glasgow, Scotland, say. A group of them just proved that light can be slowed down, permanently."
> >
> > http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/417655/scitech/science/exclusive-this-pinay-physicist-can-slow-down-light-without-touching-it
> >  "Although the maximum speed of light is a cosmological constant - made famous by Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and E=mc^2 - it can, in fact, be slowed down: that's what optics do."
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxJ7_tbbIsg
> >  "Glasgow researchers slow the speed of light"
> >
> > The second aspect is even easier to disprove - I will do this in my next posting.
> >
> > Pentcho Valev
> 
> I don't understand what the issue is here...
> So Albert Einstein lied about the speed of light, so what? He
> was just changing the facts to fit his theory...how else do
> you have a perfect theory???


To put it simply that anyone can understand....


If you can go faster than the speed of sound...
you can go faster than the speed of light.

And that's that!

End of story.

Not up for discussion.


It's irrefutable.

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Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-29 03:05 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-29 11:30 -0700
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-29 12:11 -0700
      Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-29 12:13 -0700
        Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 20:35 +0300
          Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 19:53 +0200
            Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 21:10 +0300
              Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 21:02 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 22:32 +0300
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 21:58 +0200
              Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 12:34 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-02 21:49 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 16:39 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-02 23:33 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:28 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-03 18:21 +0200
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-30 05:57 -0700
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 00:41 -0700
      Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 05:17 -0700
        Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-31 06:03 -0700
          Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 07:06 -0700
            Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-05-31 19:46 +0200
              Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 12:16 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-05-31 21:24 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 18:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-31 23:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-01 08:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-01 18:27 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-01 13:21 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-03 11:07 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-03 09:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-04 06:52 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-04 12:45 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-05 10:32 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 11:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-05 21:34 +0200
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 14:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-05 07:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-05 16:40 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-05 17:43 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-06 08:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-06 08:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-06 08:30 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-06 09:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-06 15:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-07 06:11 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 06:15 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 07:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-08 07:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-08 21:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-08 21:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 11:40 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-09 17:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 19:36 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 08:06 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 22:24 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 07:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-12 05:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 09:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 10:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-13 07:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 09:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 10:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-13 12:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 14:03 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-14 13:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 16:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-06-15 06:23 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 16:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-13 13:04 -0500
                Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-13 20:09 +0200
          Re: Pentcho's False Baloney Won't Kill Physics 'Cause No One Listens to his Nonsense Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 15:10 -0700
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics dancouriann@gmail.com - 2016-06-04 13:13 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 09:19 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-06-02 12:40 +1000
    Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-02 02:53 -0700
      Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 04:48 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-02 02:32 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-06-08 09:22 -0700
  Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-06-09 06:56 -0700

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