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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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On 28-February-2016 3:39 PM, mur@. wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:59:27 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 24-February-2016 1:39 PM, mur@. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:56:45 +0100 (CET), "Arthur" <arthurf@kxol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <charlie-gordon1492-FFE6AD.03221624082015@88-209-239-
>>>> 213.giganet.hu>
>>>> je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>>>> In article <9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com>,
>>>>>    Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not reject scientific theory and have never indicated I do.  At
>>>>>> the same time I do not accept the existence of any creator nor do I
>>>>>> automatically accept the requirement that existence alone proves
>>>>>> something must have been created.  Existence only proves itself and
>>>>>> does nothing toward any origin either to prove one existed or what
>>>>>> that origin was.
>>>>> What you are is so combative that you cannot even cope with the verb "create".
>>>>> You are terrified that if you accept the normal meaning and use of the word, it
>>>>> will obligate you agree to concepts not even under discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a problem with ever verb that allows but does not require an agent?
>>>>> Do you have a similar freak-out at "the Earth's core is made of iron and nickel"
>>>>> because allowing that Earth's core is "made" of anything forces you to accept
>>>>> that there must be a "maker"? You are pathetic.
>>>> Lol!  You nailed him to the wall with his own hammer and nails.
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
>>>>> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
>>>>> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
>>>>> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
>>>       Strong atheism is the most faith based of any religious belief with the
>>> possible exception of strong agnosticism, afaik. Neither has nor ever could have
>>> a shred of evidence to support it in any way, so those who believe in either are
>>> doing no more than putting thair faith in their own particular guess being
>>> correct with no evidence at all to back it up.
>> that's exactly right
>      So why are they ashamed of it? And since they clearly ARE ashamed of it,
> what prevents them from trying to change that position they're so clearly
> ashamed to be in?

atheists are simply ppl who want to deny the possibility that a God may 
exist, and some spiritual things may be true. if they weren't, they 
would be happy to simply be non-religious like everyone who isn't 
religious, or nominally christian (or whatever) , if they wish to 
identify with a culture or heritage or belief system, or call themselves 
agnostic

-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Arthur" <arthurf@kxol.com> - 2016-02-20 00:56 +0100
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-23 21:39 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Dave Taylor <triple_crown_1@la_kings.con> - 2016-02-23 20:58 -0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-25 23:01 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:59 +1100
      Re: Scientists are more humane. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 09:55 -0800
        Re: Scientists are more humane. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:55 +1100
          Re: Scientists are more humane, they breed less. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 17:00 -0800
        Re: Scientists are more humane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-27 16:07 -0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-27 23:39 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 17:18 +1100
          Re: Christianity is neither scientific nor logical. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 02:20 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-02-28 03:53 -0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-02-28 07:46 -0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:42 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-28 11:30 -0600
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:58 +1100

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