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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, alt.astronomy, alt.astrology, alt.agnosticism
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2016-02-27 20:59 +1100
Message-ID <djdafbF3s2tU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <charlie-gordon1492-207C1E.14380823082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com> <charlie-gordon1492-FFE6AD.03221624082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <cbcd216c8c09041a9d163d79d2d0d16d@dizum.com> <iv5qcblmjbdjgtcgvriild41shjlc9trba@4ax.com>

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On 24-February-2016 1:39 PM, mur@. wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:56:45 +0100 (CET), "Arthur" <arthurf@kxol.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <charlie-gordon1492-FFE6AD.03221624082015@88-209-239-
>> 213.giganet.hu>
>> je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>> In article <9fnltad2dpu26tt5lno98eq1hu3nktngtc@4ax.com>,
>>>   Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not reject scientific theory and have never indicated I do.  At
>>>> the same time I do not accept the existence of any creator nor do I
>>>> automatically accept the requirement that existence alone proves
>>>> something must have been created.  Existence only proves itself and
>>>> does nothing toward any origin either to prove one existed or what
>>>> that origin was.
>>> What you are is so combative that you cannot even cope with the verb "create".
>>> You are terrified that if you accept the normal meaning and use of the word, it
>>> will obligate you agree to concepts not even under discussion.
>>>
>>> Do you have a problem with ever verb that allows but does not require an agent?
>>> Do you have a similar freak-out at "the Earth's core is made of iron and nickel"
>>> because allowing that Earth's core is "made" of anything forces you to accept
>>> that there must be a "maker"? You are pathetic.
>> Lol!  You nailed him to the wall with his own hammer and nails.
>>
>>> --
>>> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
>>> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
>>> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
>>> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
>      Strong atheism is the most faith based of any religious belief with the
> possible exception of strong agnosticism, afaik. Neither has nor ever could have
> a shred of evidence to support it in any way, so those who believe in either are
> doing no more than putting thair faith in their own particular guess being
> correct with no evidence at all to back it up.

that's exactly right

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Arthur" <arthurf@kxol.com> - 2016-02-20 00:56 +0100
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-23 21:39 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Dave Taylor <triple_crown_1@la_kings.con> - 2016-02-23 20:58 -0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-25 23:01 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:59 +1100
      Re: Scientists are more humane. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 09:55 -0800
        Re: Scientists are more humane. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:55 +1100
          Re: Scientists are more humane, they breed less. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 17:00 -0800
        Re: Scientists are more humane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-27 16:07 -0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-27 23:39 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 17:18 +1100
          Re: Christianity is neither scientific nor logical. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 02:20 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-02-28 03:53 -0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-02-28 07:46 -0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:42 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-28 11:30 -0600
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:58 +1100

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