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Re: SPNAK! on Shiny Tinfoil Brain. Again.

From vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups alt.usenet.kooks
Subject Re: SPNAK! on Shiny Tinfoil Brain. Again.
Date 2016-02-26 20:11 +0000
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:23:49 +0100, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
Emeritus wrote:

> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
> 
> vallor, in <news:dj9ksmF5q8gU3@mid.individual.net> did thusly jump head
> first into the wood chipper again:
> 
>> BTW:
>> 
>>  ...who needs a mnemonic to remember that gold is 5% and silver is 10%?
>> 
>> Here, have another one:
>> 
>> White Blue, Blue White,
>> White Orange,
>> White Green, Green White,
>> Orange White,
>> White Brown, Brown White
> 
> That's only on the punchdown block. The modular plugs are a different
> wiring layout. See below.
> 
>> .. . .. . . .
>> BB O GG O BrBr
>> 
>> In this (admittedly old) AT&T PDS layout, describe why the green pair
>> splits the orange pair in this 8-pin cable.
> 
> You're talking about the old 10Mbps LattisNet wiring, using the AT&T PDS
> layout, which used 4 of the 8 conductors (Orange-White, Orange,
> Green-White, Green) for data, two for phone (Blue-White, Blue) and two
> for lighted keyboards and such (Brown-White, Brown)?
> 
> 66 Block:
> 1 Blue-White: tip 2 Blue: ring 3 Orange-White: TX+
> 4 Green-White: RX+
> 5 Green: RX-
> 6 Orange: TX-
> 7 Brown-White: power 8 Brown: power
> 
> Modular Plug 586B:
> 1 Orange-White: TX+
> 2 Orange: TX-
> 3 Green-White: RX+
> 4 Blue 5 Blue-White 6 Green: RX-
> 7 Brown-White 8 Brown
> 
> For RJ21, you'd use (Major/Minor):
> White: /Blue, /Orange, /Green, /Brown, /Slate Red: /Blue, /Orange,
> /Green, /Brown, /Slate Black: /Blue, /Orange, /Green, /Brown, /Slate
> Yellow: /Blue, /Orange, /Green, /Brown, /Slate Violet: /Blue, /Orange,
> /Green, /Brown, /Slate
> 
> For cables over 25 pairs up to 600 pairs, each 25-pair binder group is
> marked with the colors of the color code, starting with White/Blue, then
> White/Orange, etc., all the way through to Violet/Brown.
> 
> For cables over 600 pairs, each of the (up to 24) 100-pair binder groups
> is marked with the same color code... so you start at the outer binder
> group and work your way inward to the individual pairs.
> 
> You'll note the AT&T 258A PDS standard from way back when conforms to
> the RJ-45 EIA/TIA 568B standard. The Blue-White/Blue pair are in the
> plug center so 8-wide jacks can be installed and will take 4, 6 or
> 8-wide plugs without problem.
> 
> Digital handsets use the orange and green pairs, so the pairs have to be
> split so each receiving and transmitting end would have something to
> transmit to, and something to listen to. The Blue and Blue-White are
> reversed on the plug to maintain Solid|Striped symmetry.
> 
> HTH, HAND

This is correct -- although the way we did it, we kept the pairs in color 
order, nor did we flip them.

(Your copypasta skills are formidable...would you like a cookie?)

-- 
 -v

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      Re: SPNAK! on Shiny Tinfoil Brain. Again. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-02-26 00:34 +0000
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