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Re: Why isn't ether confirmed

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why isn't ether confirmed
Date 2016-02-24 11:26 +1100
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On 24/02/2016 7:21 AM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 23 lutego 2016 05:28:02 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 22/02/2016 4:07 AM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu niedziela, 21 lutego 2016 01:11:55 UTC+1 użytkownik tjrob137 napisał:
>>>> On 2/19/16 2/19/16   4:16 PM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
>>>>> Simply: the light is a wave,
>>>>
>>>> But it ISN'T. All you do is display your profound ignorance of modern
>>>> experimental physics. All the many quantum effects of light disprove your assertion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom Roberts
>>>
>>> The light is a wave, and without any doubt;
>>> pierdylion of experiments showed this fact long ago successfully.
>>
>> And the photoelectric effect?
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> The photoeffect is fully explained in the classical waves mechanics only.

Really?

There are some odd effects.

a) Light below a certain frequency does not cause the emission of 
electrons from a surface regardless of how intense the illumination.

b) Above a certain frequency, some electrons are emitted, regardless of 
how weak the illumination.

c) Where the light is of a frequency sufficient to cause the emission of 
electrons, there is no lower limit on the period of illumination before 
the first electron is detected.

So how does classical wave mechanics address these?

Sylvia.
>
> BTW: it's very complicated.. mathematicaly,
> therefore the simplified form is known and promoted only:
> the einsteinian corpuscular surogate..
> additionaly the SR-fallacy is compatible
> with corpuscular model of light only, thus there is no way... in fact.
>

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Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-18 23:15 -0800
  Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 18:44 +1100
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-18 23:59 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 09:42 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:02 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 10:15 +0100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:21 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-19 12:23 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 03:37 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 05:48 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 06:04 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:24 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 22:03 +1100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-19 19:20 +0000
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 20:01 -0500
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 19:56 +1100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-19 01:07 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:11 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 03:45 -0500
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:02 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 08:53 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:48 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 10:02 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:14 -0600
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 10:29 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-22 10:30 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:43 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:40 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 03:49 -0500
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 20:13 +1100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:13 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:27 -0600
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2016-02-27 15:08 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:04 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kunz <gx@fp.cdfy.7h> - 2016-02-19 13:08 +0000
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-21 14:20 +0100
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-07 20:44 +0100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed François Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:37 -0500
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-19 09:40 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 17:13 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:14 -0600
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-24 09:44 -0600
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 16:50 +0000
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 08:38 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-20 11:11 +0100
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 14:16 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:15 -0800
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-20 07:49 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 22:08 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 09:09 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 09:37 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 20:00 -0500
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:28 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:18 -0600
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:11 -0600
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 09:07 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 10:37 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-21 11:30 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:18 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-23 12:33 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 12:54 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-23 15:27 +1100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-23 12:21 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:07 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-23 23:11 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 14:18 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-24 08:10 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 09:00 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:14 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 09:34 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-24 22:10 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:22 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-26 12:54 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-24 22:36 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 18:27 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 08:59 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 04:53 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 18:17 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 17:43 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:55 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 19:20 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:53 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:28 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 11:26 +1100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:40 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-25 16:10 +1100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 07:37 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 08:01 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 10:26 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 12:11 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 12:43 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 13:15 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 22:21 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 15:51 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-25 20:07 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:36 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 20:33 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:31 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:12 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-27 12:08 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-27 22:50 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 22:56 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-28 09:50 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-25 22:18 +0100
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed PC <pc468@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:45 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-25 16:56 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 20:45 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 23:12 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-25 23:35 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:03 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:07 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-26 00:32 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 00:33 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:41 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 15:04 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-27 11:51 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 12:09 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-27 13:08 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 13:48 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-28 08:46 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 10:24 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-28 11:36 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 16:03 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-29 12:28 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-28 23:35 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 00:21 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 00:32 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 04:58 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 05:42 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:04 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 06:16 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:46 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 +0000
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:09 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 15:30 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:25 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:31 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:34 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:35 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:37 -0600
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 23:15 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 04:40 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-01 06:09 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:23 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 07:19 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-01 22:55 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 03:19 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-02 03:26 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 03:38 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-29 16:45 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-03-07 12:05 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 19:50 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-29 23:13 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-26 09:19 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-20 07:07 -0800
  Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-20 18:29 -0600
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:35 -0800
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-21 10:09 +0100
    Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 22:29 -0800
      Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 10:39 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 03:03 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 05:07 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 05:38 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 06:03 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 06:25 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 06:37 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 06:46 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:25 -0800
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-22 23:50 -0800
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:43 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-22 18:50 +0000
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 21:14 +0100
        Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-22 13:47 -0800
          Re: Why isn't ether confirmed "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-23 21:59 +0100
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-23 23:07 +0000
            Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:14 -0800
              Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:38 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-24 11:54 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 11:58 -0800
                Re: Why isn't ether confirmed JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:47 -0800

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