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Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter

From Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter
Date 2015-12-27 17:16 -0330
Message-ID <deb10rFqvt7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <slrnn7u5q5.1jvc.g.kreme@amelia.local> <de9ur3FiehqU1@mid.individual.net> <slrnn804go.1jvc.g.kreme@amelia.local> <deajs0FnmfrU1@mid.individual.net> <MPG.30ea439d6071038a959@news.individual.net>

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On 2015-12-27 3:21 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article <deajs0FnmfrU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
>>
>> On 2015-12-27 16:27:40 +0000, Lewis said:
>>
>>> In message <de9ur3FiehqU1@mid.individual.net>
>>>    Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-12-26 22:37:30 +0000, Lewis said:
>>>
>>>>> In message <n5n336$1gp$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>> Joe Roberts <shoreheritage@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Snidely" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> (grouplist trimmed ... snip for brevity, please see the original post)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "What do you think of my cart, Miss Morland? A neat one, is not it? Well
>>>>>>> hung: curricle-hung in fact. Come sit by me and we'll test the springs."
>>>>>>> (Speculative fiction by H.Lacedaemonian.)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kissin' cousins, perhaps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe, but most people seem to not know what that phrase means. It does
>>>>> not mean "cousin you are especially close to" but rather, "cousins it's
>>>>> OK to have sex with."
>>>
>>>> That's to say all cousins, if they're of age, and, in the past, of the
>>>> opposite sex.
>>>
>>> No. For many people first cousins are considered too close,
>>
>> Not if you've been brought up in the bosom of the Church of England
>> they aren't. Charles Darwin's wife Emma was his first cousin.
>
>    Queen Victoria married her first cousin Albert, the son of her
> mother's brother.
>

It depends on which part of the bosom of the Church of England you were 
brought up in. I was brought up in what was then called the Church of 
England - it was later called the Anglican Church of Canada - and 
marriage with first cousins was considered as unthinkable as marrying a 
sibling, with marriage with more distant cousins being undesirable at 
the least. And it didn't matter in the least that such marriages were 
not forbidden in the Table of Kindred and Affinity in the prayer book.

What people did back in the UK, especially among the rich who were known 
to have made politically and financially advantageous marriages among 
their kin for years, was irrelevant.

-- 
Cheryl

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Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-26 07:07 +0200
  Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 22:36 -0800
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-26 11:53 +0200
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-26 15:21 +0100
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 09:41 -0500
          Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-26 14:53 +0000
            Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 11:16 -0800
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-26 20:38 +0000
            Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 12:07 -0800
            Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 14:30 +1100
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 20:28 -0800
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 22:17 -0800
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-29 11:24 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-29 12:35 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-29 11:51 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-31 18:10 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-31 11:23 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 06:28 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-29 14:58 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 08:42 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-29 20:33 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-29 12:38 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 14:30 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-29 22:37 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-29 14:41 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-29 23:12 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-30 11:47 +1100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-29 17:26 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 20:19 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Will Parsons <varro@nodomain.invalid> - 2015-12-30 02:03 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 20:23 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-31 18:24 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 10:12 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-31 18:15 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-29 16:50 +0000
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 06:49 -0800
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 11:38 -0800
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 11:40 -0800
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Joe Roberts" <shoreheritage@att.net> - 2015-12-26 17:10 -0500
          Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-26 22:37 +0000
            Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-27 12:02 +0100
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-27 04:59 -0700
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-27 07:11 -0800
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-27 16:27 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-27 18:01 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-27 18:51 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-27 17:16 -0330
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-27 21:03 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-27 19:46 -0330
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 15:32 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-28 20:20 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-27 19:00 -0600
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 20:10 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-28 08:52 -0330
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-28 18:09 -0600
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 23:37 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-28 11:45 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-28 17:47 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-28 12:31 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-28 22:26 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 14:52 +1100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-28 19:42 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-28 12:06 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-28 21:13 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-28 12:20 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-28 21:16 +0000
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-28 22:41 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 14:25 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-28 15:17 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter snidely.too@gmail.com - 2015-12-28 19:14 -0800
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-29 08:13 +0100
                Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 14:49 +1100
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-27 02:38 +0200
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter John Dawkins <artfldodgr@aol.com> - 2015-12-26 12:45 -0800
  Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-26 12:06 +0000
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-26 20:05 +0200
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-26 21:22 +0000
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-27 12:11 +0100
  Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 05:29 -0800
  Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Doug Chadduck <dchadduck@comcast.net> - 2015-12-26 08:03 -0800
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-26 20:09 +0200
  Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Joe Roberts" <shoreheritage@att.net> - 2015-12-26 12:02 -0500
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-26 19:27 +0200
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 12:09 -0800
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 12:23 -0800
    Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 09:04 -0500
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-27 16:56 +0200
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 08:18 -0800
      Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Joe Roberts" <shoreheritage@att.net> - 2015-12-27 10:54 -0500
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 12:32 -0500
          Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter "Joe Roberts" <shoreheritage@att.net> - 2015-12-27 16:16 -0500
        Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-28 03:22 +0200
          Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-28 12:40 +0000
            Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2015-12-28 13:04 -0500
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-28 15:49 -0330
            Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-29 06:09 +0200
              Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 22:51 -0700
          Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 15:14 +1100
  Re: Shirttail cousins -- blogging's bertter Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 08:17 -0800

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