Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation

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Date	2016-02-16 13:46 -0800
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Subject	Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation
From	James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>

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On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 12:28:36 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 2/16/2016 1:50 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 8:46:04 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> >> On 2/16/2016 10:36 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >>> Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of
> >>> precipitation.
> 
> >>> IIRC that is just the opposite of reber's claim.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> A NOAA lesson in Heavy Air Theory;
> >>
> >> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/atmos/ll_airweight.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> from the website;
> 
> >> "Dry air is composed of mostly of heavy oxygen (O2) and nitrogen
> >> (N2) molecules. However in moist air, some molecules are the
> >> lighter weight water molecules (H2O), rather than heavier O2 or N2
> >> molecules.
> >
> > H2O is not gaseous in the atmosphere.  Consult steam tables.
> 
> Actually the steam tables show plenty of water in the atmosphere.

Your an idiot.



> It is obvious looking at the tables.
> Apperently, you do knot know how to read the steam tables.

Apparently you don't know how to spell apparently.

> 
> > Moist air is heavier, not lighter, than dry air.  Additionally, the
> > high heat capacity of liquid H2O in the atmosphere will extract
> > energy more rapidly.  That is why the ball will travel farther in dry
> > air.
> 
> Not at all, that is a common mistake by novices. 

How would you know.  You do nothing but hang out on the internet all day.  


Take some time and 
> think about dry air is composed of mostly of heavy oxygen (O2) and
> nitrogen (N2) Molecules. However in moist air, some molecules are the
> lighter weight water molecules (H2O), rather than heavier O2 or N2 
> molecules.
> 
> what is the weight of H2O ?  MM of 18.0152 g/mol
> Weight of O2 ?   MM of 31.9988 g/mol
> Weight of N2 ?   MM of 28.01340 g/mol

Look up the boiling temp/pressure of H2O, you simpleton.

> 
> clearly water, H2O is light weight, everybody already knows this, and 
> can easily verify this fact online in thousands of places.  Too bad you 
> continue to fool yourself.
> 
>   H2O is gaseous in the atmosphere.  Consult steam tables, or any 
> Psychrometric chart http://www.kaceenergy.com/images/fig4.gif
> 
>   Therefore, the *air is less dense in moist air* and this decrease in
>   density equates to less resistance to the ball's motion through air.
> 
> So, for two baseballs hit with equal force, the one in the moist air
> would  travel much much farther than the one hit in dry air.

It must be frustrating for you that the internet does not allow you to drop a link to your imagination.

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Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:36 -0600
  Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 10:45 -0600
    Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:50 -0800
      Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 14:28 -0600
        Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 13:46 -0800
          Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 17:52 -0600
            Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:00 -0800
              Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 19:31 -0600
      Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 14:54 -0800
        Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:28 -0800
          Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 20:36 -0800
            Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 20:58 -0800
              Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:11 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:27 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:50 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:57 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:10 -0600
              Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 21:36 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 22:03 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 22:29 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:19 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 10:24 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:29 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:03 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 12:46 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:54 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:10 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:20 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 19:11 -0600
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          Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:18 -0800
  Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:49 -0800
    Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 12:57 -0600
      Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-02-16 14:59 -0800
      Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:38 -0800
        Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:45 -0800
          Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 17:59 -0600
            Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:07 -0800
              Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 19:56 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:10 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 20:58 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 19:10 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 22:12 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 20:57 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:10 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:26 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:49 -0600
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                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:50 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 10:34 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:04 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 12:49 -0600
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                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:14 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 15:53 -0500
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:55 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:44 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:50 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:14 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:50 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:46 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:07 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:15 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 13:47 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 19:08 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-17 19:52 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 22:40 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-18 11:35 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:03 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:56 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:17 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:58 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:09 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:40 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 14:10 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:41 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 16:09 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 14:13 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 17:55 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:08 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 07:46 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:43 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:48 -0500
        Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:10 -0600
          Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:01 -0800
            Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 20:58 -0600
              Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 19:11 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 22:12 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:31 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 10:39 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:10 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:12 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:16 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:52 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:47 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 12:57 -0600
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:09 -0800
                Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:17 -0600
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