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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation |
| Date | 2016-02-16 14:28 -0600 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <na00pe$1gdm$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 2/16/2016 1:50 PM, James McGinn wrote: > On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 8:46:04 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: >> On 2/16/2016 10:36 AM, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of >>> precipitation. >>> IIRC that is just the opposite of reber's claim. >>> >>> >> >> A NOAA lesson in Heavy Air Theory; >> >> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/atmos/ll_airweight.htm >> >> >> from the website; >> "Dry air is composed of mostly of heavy oxygen (O2) and nitrogen >> (N2) molecules. However in moist air, some molecules are the >> lighter weight water molecules (H2O), rather than heavier O2 or N2 >> molecules. > > H2O is not gaseous in the atmosphere. Consult steam tables. Actually the steam tables show plenty of water in the atmosphere. It is obvious looking at the tables. Apperently, you do knot know how to read the steam tables. > Moist air is heavier, not lighter, than dry air. Additionally, the > high heat capacity of liquid H2O in the atmosphere will extract > energy more rapidly. That is why the ball will travel farther in dry > air. Not at all, that is a common mistake by novices. Take some time and think about dry air is composed of mostly of heavy oxygen (O2) and nitrogen (N2) Molecules. However in moist air, some molecules are the lighter weight water molecules (H2O), rather than heavier O2 or N2 molecules. what is the weight of H2O ? MM of 18.0152 g/mol Weight of O2 ? MM of 31.9988 g/mol Weight of N2 ? MM of 28.01340 g/mol clearly water, H2O is light weight, everybody already knows this, and can easily verify this fact online in thousands of places. Too bad you continue to fool yourself. H2O is gaseous in the atmosphere. Consult steam tables, or any Psychrometric chart http://www.kaceenergy.com/images/fig4.gif Therefore, the *air is less dense in moist air* and this decrease in density equates to less resistance to the ball's motion through air. So, for two baseballs hit with equal force, the one in the moist air would travel much much farther than the one hit in dry air.
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Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:36 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 10:45 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:50 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 14:28 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 13:46 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 17:52 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:00 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 19:31 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 14:54 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:28 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 20:36 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 20:58 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:11 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:27 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:50 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:57 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:10 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 21:36 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 22:03 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-16 22:29 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:19 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 10:24 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:29 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:03 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 12:46 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:54 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:10 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:20 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 19:11 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-02-17 00:40 +0000
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:18 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:49 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 12:57 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-02-16 14:59 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:38 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:45 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 17:59 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:07 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 19:56 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:10 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 20:58 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 19:10 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 22:12 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 20:57 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:10 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:26 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:49 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation dm <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 07:39 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:50 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 10:34 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:04 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 12:49 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:45 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:14 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 15:53 -0500
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:55 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 08:44 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:50 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:14 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:50 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:46 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:07 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:15 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 13:47 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 19:08 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-17 19:52 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 22:40 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-18 11:35 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:03 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:56 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:17 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:58 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:09 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:40 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 14:10 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:41 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 16:09 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 14:13 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 17:55 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:08 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 07:46 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:43 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:48 -0500
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:10 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:01 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 20:58 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 19:11 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-16 22:12 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:31 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 10:39 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:10 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:12 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:16 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:52 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 10:47 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 12:57 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:09 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-17 13:17 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:24 -0500
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-16 13:53 -0800
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:43 -0600
Re: Heavy Air Theory = High Pressure Systems and lack of precipitation Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:04 -0800
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