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Re: Currywurst, anyone?

From Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de>
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Subject Re: Currywurst, anyone?
Date 2015-11-01 10:23 +0100
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:54:27 +0100, Hanno Foest wrote:

>Das ist in einer Kantine mit deren naturgemäß eingeschränkten Auswahl 
>allerdings nicht ganz so einfach. Wenns da mal kein Fleisch gibt, ist 
>das echt so eine Katastrophe?

Manche Gäste mögen das so sehen. Für andere ist es vielleicht eine
Katastrophe, wenn es nichts schweinefleischfreies gibt. Und wohl jeder
hat irgendwelche Gerichte, die er nicht mag. Wenn die Kantine nicht
gerade so groß ist, daß sie X versch. Gerichte zur Auswahl stellen
kann, hat halt jeder mal Pech.

Es gibt nun mal versch. Guppen mit versch. "Vorlieben". Manche
"brauchen" unbedingt Fleisch, manche möchten generell vegetarisch oder
vegan essen, manche mögen kein Schweinefleisch, manche mögen freitags
kein Fleisch, ... (Von Einzelnen mit Allergien und besonderen
Extrawünschen mal ganz zu schweigen.)

IMHO sollte man denen allen entgegen kommen, soweit realistisch
möglich. Große Kantinen mit Auswahl haben es da halt leichter. Und
eine Gruppe, die nur einmal pro Woche "Extrawünsche" hat, kann auch
von kleinen Kantinen leichter berücksichtigt werden.

NUR: Vater Staat (und Mutter Partei) sollen sich da bitte raushalten
und nicht unter dem Deckmantel "Auswahl erhöhen" "vorschreiben", an
welchem Tag es was geben soll.

(Mit einer Regelung, daß große Kantinen generell _auch_ etwas
Vegetarisches anbieten müssen, könnte ich allerdings leben. Das würde
die Wahlfreiheit ja erhöhen. Aber ich denke, die manchen das
normalerweise sowieso so.)

>Eigentlich müßte man sich doch genauso über den Freitags-Fisch in 
>manchen religiösen Ecken Deutschlands aufregen. Darüber höre ich 
>allerdings nichts. Hmm.

Wieso sollte man sich da aufregen? Siehe oben.

Soll man IYO am Freitag aus Prinzip generell nur Fleischgerichte
anbieten?

Auf Wiederlesen

Michael

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Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-26 19:30 +0100
  Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-26 20:32 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Thomas Flaig <t.gf@freenet.de> - 2015-10-26 21:00 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-26 21:47 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-10-26 21:52 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-26 22:53 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-10-26 23:46 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-27 10:36 +0100
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 04:25 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2015-10-27 13:18 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-27 15:03 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 18:37 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-10-27 19:50 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 13:29 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2015-10-28 11:56 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Dorothee Hermann <DorotheeHermann@gmx.net> - 2015-10-27 17:30 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-10-27 16:45 +0000
                Re außerirdisch: (was: Currywurst, anyone?) Hermann Riemann <kd.hermann-riemann@kabelmail.de> - 2015-10-28 06:18 +0100
                Re: Re außerirdisch: Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-28 08:02 +0100
                Re: Re außerirdisch: Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2015-10-29 08:38 +0100
                Re: außerirdisch Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-29 14:16 +0100
                Re: außerirdisch Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-30 09:21 +0100
                Re: außerirdisch Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-30 19:58 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2015-10-28 22:17 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 00:25 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hermann Riemann <kd.hermann-riemann@kabelmail.de> - 2015-10-29 08:27 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-29 10:14 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 13:33 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Thomas Flaig <t.gf@freenet.de> - 2015-10-26 22:22 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-27 19:41 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 22:11 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Rick Szabo  <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2015-10-27 06:20 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 12:53 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 04:55 -0700
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 13:19 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-27 08:25 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-27 10:27 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-27 15:21 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-27 15:45 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 13:02 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-27 13:21 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 13:45 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2015-10-27 17:35 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-27 15:58 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-27 16:47 +0100
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-27 17:04 +0100
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-27 17:16 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 18:41 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-27 15:45 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-27 15:43 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 16:48 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-27 09:44 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-27 15:47 +0100
  Re: Currywurst, anyone? Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 20:37 +0100
  Re: Currywurst, anyone? Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-10-26 21:17 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-10-26 21:40 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-26 20:42 +0000
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-27 15:50 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hermann Riemann <kd.hermann-riemann@kabelmail.de> - 2015-10-28 06:13 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-28 13:29 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-27 09:45 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 04:27 -0700
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hermann Riemann <kd.hermann-riemann@kabelmail.de> - 2015-10-28 06:10 +0100
  Re: Currywurst, anyone? Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-10-27 02:15 +0100
  Re: Currywurst, anyone? Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2015-10-27 08:50 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-27 08:58 +0100
    Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 01:19 -0700
      poese Limonade Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-27 09:40 +0100
        Re: poese Limonade Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-27 10:56 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2015-10-27 10:30 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-27 11:19 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 17:43 +0100
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2015-10-27 18:35 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@arcor.de> - 2015-10-27 20:15 +0100
      Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-27 10:54 +0100
        Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 04:34 -0700
          Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-27 14:35 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.org> - 2015-10-27 14:45 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-27 14:57 +0100
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 16:41 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-27 16:49 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-27 16:51 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2015-10-27 16:50 +0100
            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-10-27 16:47 +0000
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2015-10-27 19:01 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-27 19:05 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Günter Frenz <usenet-01@guefz.de> - 2015-10-27 19:22 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-27 21:20 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-28 07:29 +0100
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-10-27 19:58 +0100
              Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 09:13 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-28 09:26 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 09:47 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-28 01:56 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-28 10:09 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-10-28 10:21 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 10:49 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-10-28 10:53 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 11:11 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-28 11:54 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-28 04:10 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-10-28 12:32 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 15:26 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-10-28 16:50 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-10-28 17:03 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2015-10-28 20:57 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-29 08:23 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-29 08:24 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-29 11:01 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-10-29 18:44 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 03:21 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Dorothee Hermann <DorotheeHermann@gmx.net> - 2015-10-29 11:39 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 03:46 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 14:37 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-30 09:13 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-30 13:26 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2015-10-30 13:19 +0000
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-30 14:58 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-30 09:19 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-30 13:09 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-10-30 12:36 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-28 04:53 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 15:28 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-28 15:40 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 00:39 -0700
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 15:28 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2015-10-28 20:37 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 08:45 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-28 15:44 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 10:09 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-10-29 10:30 +0000
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 12:09 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 14:37 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 15:15 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 16:01 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 16:18 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 16:52 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 16:33 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-10-29 17:48 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2015-10-29 12:36 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 15:23 +0100
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                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-10-28 11:45 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2015-10-28 15:30 +0100
                Re: Currywurst, anyone? Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2015-10-28 10:36 +0100
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            Re: Currywurst, anyone? Mike Grantz <beatclubs@stoiseland.de> - 2015-10-28 10:38 +0100
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