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Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects".

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On 20/10/2015 5:27 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 20 października 2015 03:22:42 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 19/10/2015 8:57 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu poniedziałek, 19 października 2015 10:56:34 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>>>> I'm not sure what your concern is. If it's that there are gravitational
>>>> effects that distort the result, that's true. But it's also true of
>>>> simple time and distance measurements, so the space-time interval is no
>>>> less valid than those.
>>>
>>> What a heresy. There is no gravitational distortion
>>> in time and distance measurements. They are valid -
>>> in our non-inertial frame, from our non-inertial
>>> point of view. And they can't be used to determine
>>> interval, at least the simple way.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for doing the measurements - we know where and when these events
>>>> occurred - that is, most of the measuring has already been done.
>>>
>>> In non-inertial frame. You can't put results to inertial
>>> formula. Neither the time, nor the distance matches.
>>
>> You can transform them into an inertial frame.
>
> :)
> Can Your spiritual guidance be more precise?
>
>
>> You cannot make any measurements at all without a theoretical framework.
>> Even using a metre rule requires a theory that says that distances
>> compose by simple addition.
>
> Fine, You're starting to think.
> Now - will You still claim, that Your
> relativity is a simple consequence of
> measurements?
> After the conclusion above?
>

It's an internally consistent mathematical model of reality. When 
measurements are interpreted within the model, they are found to be 
consistent with it. Science doesn't claim any more than that.

You're welcome to propose an alternate model, but finding one that's 
consistent is not so easy.

Sylvia.

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Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-18 14:27 +0200
  Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 18:53 -0700
    Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-18 23:13 -0700
  Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-19 16:36 +1100
    Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-18 23:01 -0700
      Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-19 18:52 +1100
        Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-19 01:25 -0700
          Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-19 19:56 +1100
            Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-19 02:57 -0700
              Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-20 12:22 +1100
                Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-19 23:27 -0700
                Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-20 19:29 +1100
                Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-20 02:14 -0700
                Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-20 20:29 +1100
                Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-20 02:45 -0700
    Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-19 12:02 -0700
      Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 12:25 -0700
        Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-19 22:55 +0200
          Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 17:14 -0700
            Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-19 23:39 -0700
      Re: Let's talk about "TECHNICAL aspects". Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-10-20 12:24 +1100

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