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Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid.

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Date	2023-08-15 22:07 -0700
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Subject	Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid.
From	Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>

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On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 06:35:31 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:17:06 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 7:58:49 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:02:51 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:42:24 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:12:19 AM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:44:33 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:30:21 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:27:51 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > a.) Lorentz formulated his transformation formulas to save the ether from the null result. 
> > > > > > > > > False. 
> > > > > > > > > > b.) Einstein discarded the ether yet kept the formulas which no longer had any purpose. 
> > > > > > > > > Not even wrong. A pseudoscientific word salad. 
> > > > > > > > > > c.) That they have no purpose is clear because the calculation for the ether wind is entirely different from any calculation Einstein would need for his second postulate. 
> > > > > > > > > Not even wrong. Gobbledygook. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I suggest you try something else for a hobby. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > > > Most critics of relativity can see the deceitful manner in which relativists defend relativity here, and they stand back and just read the skeptics and ignore the relativists. You people don't persuade any skeptics. 
> > > > > > > The problem with people on this NG who are against relativity is NOT that 
> > > > > > > they are against it. It's one part of being a scientist to be skeptical. But the 
> > > > > > > problem is that: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. ALL of their arguments HERE are provably wrong AT BEST. Most of the time their 
> > > > > > > arguments are in fact not even wrong. There do exist interesting critiques and 
> > > > > > > alternative theories. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2. They cannot understand expert refutations, 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3. Despite item 2 above, they accuse everyone who opposes them of being 
> > > > > > > "in a cult" or "worshipping Einstein" or "regurgitating what they've been told" 
> > > > > > > (this last one is the standard answer when confronted with an actual 
> > > > > > > technical argument), etc. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All of your posts criticising relativity so far have been pseudoscientific junk. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There is a way to criticise physics and its theories but you haven't the faintest 
> > > > > > > what it's all about. You live in a pseudointellectual dreamland with yourself 
> > > > > > > as its king. Feh. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > Jan 
> > > > > > I can't tell you how impressed I am! 
> > > > > I'm glad to hear that. Let's hope you leave those infantile fantasies behind. 
> > > > > The sooner the better. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Jan 
> > > > Poor Jan has to do ad hominem for his denial. 
> > > You can think of it as ad hominem but it's just the truth. And I don't 
> > > "have" to do anything, stop pretending. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jan 
> 
> > You can't do anything to defend relativity, so you don't. It's not defensible and never has been. All one needs to know is one should not change the time and length in a speed equation to keep the speed the same because that is wrong.
> Exactly when was it, Crossen, that you decided that you knew more about relativity than the tens of thousands of scientists who preceded you over the last century? 


As the idiots were unable to notice that their Shit 
is not even consistent...

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Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:27 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:30 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:36 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 01:57 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:44 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:12 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:42 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:02 -0700
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:59 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 22:13 -0400
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-16 11:17 -0500
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 01:38 -0400
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 13:09 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 19:58 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 20:17 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 21:35 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 22:07 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 12:58 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-16 21:06 -0500
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:55 +0200
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:43 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:18 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 10:01 +0200
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 14:59 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 20:58 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:00 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 00:36 -0500
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:49 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-15 12:56 +0000
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:40 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-17 12:56 +1000
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 21:16 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:58 +0200
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 01:03 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-19 12:25 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:40 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:40 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 23:19 +0200
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:00 -0700
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-26 12:29 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 14:25 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:17 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-17 10:24 +0000
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 04:20 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 14:06 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 19:37 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 19:45 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 03:08 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 22:45 -0400
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 20:11 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 02:59 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 13:44 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 17:15 -0400
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 14:56 -0700
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:38 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:52 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:47 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-26 15:51 -0500
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:57 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 15:00 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 11:11 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:56 -0700

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