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Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid.

From	Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid.
Date	2023-08-17 09:58 +0200
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On 2023-08-17 04:16:55 +0000, JanPB said:

> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 7:56:21 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 15-Aug-23 1:27 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:> > a.) Lorentz 
>> formulated his transformation formulas to save the ether from the null 
>> result.> > b.) Einstein discarded the ether yet kept the formulas which 
>> no longer had any purpose.> > c.) That they have no purpose is clear 
>> because the calculation for the ether wind is entirely different from 
>> any calculation Einstein would need for his second postulate.
>> There appear to be three kinds of people.>> a) Who understand 
>> relativity, see how it works, and are content with that.> b) Who do not 
>> understand relativity, know that they do not understand> it, and are 
>> content with that.> c) Who do not understand relativity, but think that 
>> they do, and in> consequence have an unshakeable belief that there 
>> something wrong with it.
> The (c)-type is common in life in general, not only in relativity or 
> even science
> in general. Newton and Goethe and many others wrote about this already
> centuries ago (namely the fact that the least knowledgeable are frequently
> the most sure of themselves).

Shakespeare, even:

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:27 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:30 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:36 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 01:57 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 20:44 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:12 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:42 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:02 -0700
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:59 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 22:13 -0400
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-16 11:17 -0500
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-17 01:38 -0400
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 13:09 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 19:58 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 20:17 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 21:35 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 22:07 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 12:58 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-16 21:06 -0500
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:55 +0200
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 20:43 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:18 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 10:01 +0200
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 14:59 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 20:58 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 21:00 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-15 00:36 -0500
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 12:49 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-15 12:56 +0000
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 10:40 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-08-17 12:56 +1000
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 21:16 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 09:58 +0200
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 01:03 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-19 12:25 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:40 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 12:40 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-08-19 23:19 +0200
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:00 -0700
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-26 12:29 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-24 14:25 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 22:17 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2023-08-17 10:24 +0000
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 04:20 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 14:06 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 19:37 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 19:45 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 03:08 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-24 22:45 -0400
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 20:11 -0700
      Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 02:59 -0700
        Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 13:44 -0700
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 17:15 -0400
          Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 14:56 -0700
            Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:38 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:52 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:47 -0700
              Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-08-26 15:51 -0500
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:57 -0700
                Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 15:00 -0700
  Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 11:11 -0700
    Re: Why relativity theory really is utterly stupid. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:56 -0700

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