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Re: Consumers' privacy concerns not backed by their actions

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In article <pf1ktd.3co.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > On 6/3/18 7:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > >> On 6/2/18 1:31 PM, nospam wrote:
> > >>> In article <fngcqiF8a4tU1@mid.individual.net>, Snit
> > >>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses.  More programs
> > >>>>>>>> available
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> yep
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> (no I won't say "apps", those are for phones),
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> app is short for application, a term that dates back at least to the
> > >>>>>>> 80s, probably even earlier
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Right. It is the term Apple has used since AT LEAST the start of the Mac.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>      Who cares!? We're talking about the *real* world! (Just kidding!)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>      FWIW, I only first encountered the term for mobile devices, yes
> > >>>>> Apples'. OTOH, 'applet' was known (to me) well before that time.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You only encountered it with mobile devices so you think that means the
> > >>>> term was not used... and more than that want to restrict how others use
> > >>>> the term!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Why?
> > >>>
> > >>> <https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/14/the-rise-of-the-app/>
> > >>>     But, unlike smartphones and tablets, app isnšt new. According to the
> > >>>     OED?s historical entry for the word, app as a shortening of
> > >>>     application (as in application program) first found its way into
> > >>>     print in the 1980s. Back then it was mainly a colloquial term used in
> > >>>     computing circles: the OED?s early quotations for it come from such
> > >>>     computing trade publications as Info World and Dr. Dobbšs Journal. It
> > >>>     often appeared not by itself but as part of the phrase killer app,
> > >>>     meaning a software application which makes a new computing platform
> > >>>     desirable or necessary. Later, it became part of webapp, meaning an
> > >>>     application made available as a website, but as a word used on its
> > >>>     own it remained relatively uncommon.
> > >>
> > >> Good to see you found where "application" has been in use for quite some
> > >> time in this context. Heck, if you go to 1984 with the Macintosh it was
> > >> the primary term used. Since then it has been often shortened to just
> > >> "app", much as "Macintosh" itself has been shortened to "Mac".
> > >
> > >    Huh? The discussion was not about the term 'application', but about
> > > the term 'app'. IME, the term 'application' has been in use at least as
> >
> > "App" as an abbreviation for "application" goes back to at least 1981.
> >
> > <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/app>
> > -----
> > First Known Use of APP
> > 1981
> > -----
>
>   It would have been nice if this part gave a actual reference. Not that
> I doubt it, but without a reference, it's just a date.
>
> > The word itself, with any meaning, has been around a LOT longer, tjough
> > in recent years spiking in 1991 and 2003:
> > <https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/app>
> >
> > (See the "Trends of 'app'" section. "
>
>   But *because* the word "has been around a LOT longer", we have no
> indication whether or not that spike is (only) for the computer-related
> meaning of the word or (also) for the *non* computer-related meanings
> (appendix, applied, appointed, apprentice, approved, etc. (appetizer
> (Merriam-Webster)).
>
>   Anyway, considering what this (non-)discussion is about, it's funny to
> see that both your references *do* confirm *our* (Jimmy Wilkinson Knife's
> and my) POV! :-) :
>
> [Emphasis mine:]
>
> <MW>
> *especially* : an application designed for a mobile device (such as a
> smartphone)
> </MW>
>
> <CD>
> An app is a computer program that is designed for use on a mobile
> digital device.
> ...
> App in British
> ...
> *esp* downloaded to a mobile device
> </CD>
>
>   (AFAIC,) EOD.

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Re: Consumers' privacy concerns not backed by their actions Anonymous <nobody@haph.org> - 2018-06-03 16:42 -0400

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