Re: Safari - Google search deal expires soon. New default for Safari ...

From	"john james" <jj9801@nospam.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: Safari - Google search deal expires soon. New default for Safari ...
Date	2015-02-06 05:57 +1100
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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message 
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> On 2015.02.04 14:16 , john james wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alan Browne" <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote in message
>> news:yMOdnSrQAcwqvU_JnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On 2015.02.03 14:11 , bne9988 wrote:
>>>> On 2015-02-01 19:01:05 +0000, Invid Fan said:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <NLOdnQCjQLGM3lPJnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan 
>>>>> Browne
>>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently the Apple/Google deal on default search for Safari (OS X
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> iOS) will end soon and Yahoo and MS are vying to be the new default
>>>>>> search engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It would be funny if Apple went with Duck Duck Go, just to piss the
>>>>> others off (It's already one of the options)
>>>>
>>>> That would be fantastic. Not only would it piss off the others, but it
>>>> would also make a statement that Apple is a company that supports
>>>> privacy... at least it would seem like they do.
>>>
>>> You could always wrap your Google (or other) searches via Tor browser
>>> making you pretty much untrackable.  I tried it recently and its speed
>>> (I mean network side) is improving to the point of not being a drag
>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> As to best search engine we assume that Google is the best, or maybe
>>> Bing is.  Or perhaps Yahoo (which uses Bing).
>>>
>>> How does one 'certify' (or otherwise measure) the completeness of a
>>> search site's content library?
>>
>> That isn't necessarily what most want from a search engine,
>> for many it’s getting the hits sorted so the one they want is
>> on the first page and one which works out what you meant
>> rather than what you actually typed, particularly with typos
>> and alternate keywords that are more commonly used.
>
> I don't disagree.  OTOH there has to be some completeness factor as part 
> of an overall "rating" of the search engine.

Sure.

> The "easy" searches aren't always the ones one needs done.

Sure, in fact it’s the harder searches that are what most
consider are what decides which search engine works
best, how well it handles those.

>>> It's crawler's abilities?  Bias?  (Google).
>>
>>> Likewise the efficiency, completeness, accuracy and
>>> context-mindfullness of its search engines and results?
>>
>> That's closer to what most want from a search engine but also
>> includes what I listed as well.

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