Re: Safari - Google search deal expires soon. New default for Safari ...

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: Safari - Google search deal expires soon. New default for Safari ...
Date	2015-02-06 05:49 +1100
Message-ID	<cjhsbrFpjmgU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>> Where do they compete?

>>>>>>>>> In the mobile OS arena.

>>>>>>>> actually they don't.

>>>>>>>> google gives away android (and licenses it to some
>>>>>>>> manufacturers). apple doesn't give away ios

>>>>>>>> google makes the majority of its revenue from advertising.
>>>>>>>> apple makes the majority of its revenue from iphone sales.

>>>>>>> Android is one of Google's ways to increase its advertising 
>>>>>>> revenues.

>>>>>> Android isnt just about increasing advertising revenues,

>>>>> yes it absolutely is.

>>>> BULLSHIT.

>>> it's not bullshit because that's how google makes money.

>> Its complete and utter bullshit that android
>> is JUST about increasing advertising revenues.

> as far as google is concerned, android is all about advertising.

Wrong, as always. Neither are the Nexus devices either. Or Glass.

>>>>> otherwise they wouldn't be giving it away.

>>>> How odd that Apple gives theirs away.

>>> apple does not give away nor sell ios.

>> Corse it gives away iOS.

> no they don't.

Corse they do. I have never paid for it.

> they offer updates for *existing* customers.

And give it away when you buy and iDevice too.

> good luck getting ios to run on a non-iphone.

Irrelevant to whether apple charges for it when you get an iDevice.

> good luck getting  license to distribute it for your own hardware.

Irrelevant to whether apple charges for it when you get an iDevice.

> that's totally different than google/android.

But google and apple do compete in the mobile OS
arena, no matter how mindlessly you try to deny that.

Just like ebay and amazon and aliexpress compete in that
arena, even tho they have quite different business models.

>>>> And Pages and Numbers as well.

>>> irrelevant.

>> Nope, that's another example of something given away
>> which has nothing to do with ADVERTISING REVENUES.

> which shows that apple's business model is not advertising.

It actually shows that GIVING SOMETHING
AWAY says nothing useful about advertising.

> you're proving my point.

Wrong, as always.

>>>>>> its just another area that google has choose to get involved in.

>>>>> advertising is what google is all about.

>> >> Google has always been about MUCH more than just advertising.

>>> nope.

>> Yep.

> nope.

Yep.

>>> 97% of google's revenue is advertising.

>> Google has always been about MUCH more than just revenue.

> as a public company, maximizing revenue is *required*,

Wrong, as always.

> and google does that with ads.

Completely and utterly irrelevant to whether google and apple do
compete in a great raft of areas, mobile phone OSs, phones, tablets,
cameras, browsers, eStores, even what ever you call Siri, etc etc etc.

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