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Re: Software's Weak Link is Code

From Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Software's Weak Link is Code
Date 2014-07-25 18:06 +0100
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Roger Levy wrote:

> 
>> What does it mean when you say that a forth compiler can be fully
>> verified, and that verified words are like gold? I'm quite new to forth.
> 
> I think he meant fully tested against all practical inputs.
> 
>> I read the rest of this thread, and it reminds me of passages from our
>> prescribed computer science texts, where it talked about the
>> disappointment of the reality of coding by means of diagrams - it never
>> delivered on it's promise of opening up programming to the visually
>> inclined.
> 
> Haha.  Yep!
> 
> The reason I think this is, is because "visual programming" doesn't
> actually solve or change anything, just present the code in a different
> way.    And often a LESS intuitive way if you ask me.

Forth Code can have attain a fully meaningful Certificate of Conformity 
which is as sound as the CofC applied to hardware components. The process by 
which this is applied requires that each component is subject to inspection 
for compliance against the specification for functionality, quality and 
operability within defined limits.

I am not sure if Roger Levy's link was for something in NI's LabView or not 
(detail a bit too small to be sure). LabView is one such graphically 
represented programming environment. The components graphical representation 
is probably a significant proportion of the programmers view programming. 
The function compiled could be quite insignificant in comparison.

The question would be whether or not the overhead is worth it.

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Software's Weak Link is Code visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-07-23 09:59 -0700
  Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Roger Levy <roger.levy@gmail.com> - 2014-07-23 10:32 -0700
    Re: Software's Weak Link is Code JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2014-07-23 11:40 -0700
      Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Celeros <kerneels@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 16:10 +0200
        Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Roger Levy <roger.levy@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 07:22 -0700
          Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Roger Levy <roger.levy@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 07:28 -0700
          Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-07-25 18:06 +0100
          Re: Software's Weak Link is Code rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 15:16 -0400
            Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-07-25 22:19 +0100
            Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Celeros <kerneels@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 23:42 +0200
              Re: Software's Weak Link is Code rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 22:44 -0400
        Re: Software's Weak Link is Code "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-25 16:45 -0400
          Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Celeros <kerneels@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 23:08 +0200
    Re: Software's Weak Link is Code "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-24 00:04 +0100
      Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Roger Levy <roger.levy@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 08:25 -0700
  Re: Software's Weak Link is Code "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-24 03:26 -0400
    Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 01:32 -0700
    Re: Software's Weak Link is Code Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 08:17 +0000
      Re: Software's Weak Link is Code "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-26 05:39 -0400
        Re: Software's Weak Link is Code visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-07-26 17:37 -0700
  Re: Software's Weak Link is Code anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-24 13:45 +0000

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