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Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate
Date 2015-03-27 22:55 +0000
Organization ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
Message-ID <bvhe40.ap3fe@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <nvh63.jfu3@rooftop.invalid> <mf49jp$3i0$1@dont-email.me> <D13B24C2.492CD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <bvh30.03ra@rooftop.invalid> <D13B2B20.492D8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 3/27/15, 3:32 PM, in article bvh30.03ra@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/27/15, 12:05 PM, in article mf49jp$3i0$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
>>> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> If websites were case-sensitive, PenIsland.com and PenisLand.com could
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's the DNS that's not case-sensitive.  Most websites have a
>>>>> case-senstive
>>>>> file system.
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/index.html <-- as expected
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/Index.html <-- 404
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> deja vu.  Or is it  Deja Vu ???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Even Apple recognizes that case-sensitive is the way to go.
>>>> 
>>>> Or Apple is using a file system that's case sensitive for no good reason. I
>>>> don't think that Apple is making a conscious decision that they want
>>>> "index.html" to be a valid webpage but not "Index.html."
>> 
>>> Right. Really it is a sign where Apple goofed. And it is a silly goof.
>> 
>>> <http://www.apple.com/ipad> Works.
>>> <http://www.apple.com/iPad> Does not work.
>> 
>>> Apple really should fix that.
>> 
>> LOL!  It's not broken!
>> 
> What is the value in the iPad link not working?

I don't have any idea what the "value" is, but it's not broken.
The entire web works this way.  You have never been able to take
for granted that anything to the right of the hostname in the URL
will be handled in a case-insensitive manner.  Only the part handled
by DNS can be trusted to work that way.

> And why have both of these work:

> <http://www.apple.com/iphone>
> <http://www.apple.com/iPhone>

> The second re-directs to the first.

OK. iMac doesn't work either. :)

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The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:11 -0700
  Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 04:10 +0000
    Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 21:45 -0700
      Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 17:08 +0000
        Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-27 13:14 -0400
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 17:16 +0000
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-27 14:36 -0400
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 18:44 +0000
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:14 -0700
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 22:35 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:59 -0700
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 13:23 -0400
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-27 14:40 -0400
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:11 -0700
        Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 13:18 -0400
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 17:21 +0000
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 13:44 -0400
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 17:46 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 13:52 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 18:01 +0000
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-27 14:45 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 18:58 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 15:05 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 19:13 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:16 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 22:32 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:43 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 22:55 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 16:01 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:14 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 16:47 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 00:32 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 18:08 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 01:21 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 18:30 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 01:50 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-27 22:54 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 20:02 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-27 23:22 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-28 09:03 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 13:13 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 13:42 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 14:17 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:13 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 12:23 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 19:38 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 19:59 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 21:51 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-28 18:02 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-30 09:06 -0500
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 15:51 +0100
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 11:22 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 12:48 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 14:02 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 11:14 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 11:17 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-28 23:12 +0100
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 18:55 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:11 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 19:20 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-29 00:29 +0100
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-28 23:38 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-28 19:43 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 23:51 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 14:45 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:00 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-29 16:14 +0100
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:42 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-29 12:41 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 16:59 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> - 2015-03-29 13:03 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 03:45 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 03:54 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 07:00 -0500
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:27 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 20:56 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-28 21:13 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:21 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-28 22:23 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:46 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 01:28 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:25 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:47 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 16:42 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-28 19:44 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-30 09:13 -0500
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:45 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:23 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 22:40 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:43 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 09:51 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:22 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-28 18:49 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-28 09:47 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 14:15 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 09:49 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 17:02 +0000
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 11:52 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 10:16 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 15:02 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:10 -0700
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 15:17 -0700
        Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-27 10:25 -0700
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 17:29 +0000
  Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:30 -0700
    Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 08:36 -0700
      Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:06 -0700
        Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 09:20 -0700
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 18:31 +0200
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:36 -0700
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 12:23 -0500
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 20:45 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 18:01 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 23:01 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 20:11 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 21:58 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 19:09 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 23:02 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 20:10 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 09:36 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-31 10:13 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:35 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 08:32 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 07:34 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 11:22 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 21:02 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-02 08:45 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 09:16 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 20:00 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-04 18:42 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-02 08:48 -0500
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-02 08:53 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 09:27 -0700
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 11:30 -0700
          Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 12:44 -0400
            Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 10:06 -0700
              Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 20:51 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 18:02 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 23:01 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-31 05:12 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 09:41 -0400
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:08 -0700
                Re: The stupid case sensitivity debate Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-31 10:49 -0700

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