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Re: UTF-8 and strings

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Marc <marc.glisse@gmail.com> writes:
>> If you mean the 16/32 difference is the reason to avoid wchar, why
>> exactly?  I don't always need to know the exact size of a long; why
>> should wchar be any different?
>
> 32 bits are enough that any unicode character fits in a single
> wchat_t, so you can work on those almost (ok, that's a big "almost")
> as easily as with plain old ascii. 16 bits force you to use some
> variable length encoding like utf-16, so this is just as complicated
> as utf-8.

Exactly.  utf-16 offers no simplicity advantage over utf-8, and suffers
from some significant disadvantages.

In practice, I suppose that many windows apps probably just ignore
anything outside the BMP, pretend "it's all 16-bit!", and as a result
suffer from mysterious and bizarre bugs when such characters crop up...

-Miles

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UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-07 08:08 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-07 17:26 +0200
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 17:58 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 18:21 -0700
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-09 06:38 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings "Balog Pal" <pasa@lib.hu> - 2011-06-07 17:35 +0200
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 18:08 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Jeff Flinn <TriumphSprint2000@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 12:55 -0400
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-06-07 15:29 -0500
      Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 07:15 -0500
        Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-08 15:45 +0000
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 12:58 -0500
            Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-09 09:18 +0000
              Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 07:36 -0500
                Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-10 13:18 -0700
                Re: UTF-8 and strings Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2011-06-11 00:29 +0000
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-10 12:58 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings diamondback <christopher.rau@gmail.com> - 2011-06-07 10:57 -0700
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-06-08 06:38 +0000
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-07 13:30 -0700
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-06-08 06:52 +0000
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Marc <marc.glisse@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 08:38 +0000
        Re: UTF-8 and strings Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-08 18:02 +0900
          Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 02:05 -0700
            Re: UTF-8 and strings Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-08 18:11 +0900
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 07:22 -0500
        Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 02:03 -0700
          Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 02:06 -0700
        Re: UTF-8 and strings tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-08 02:59 -0700
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 18:20 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 01:56 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 07:19 -0500
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-10 13:12 -0700
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 18:34 -0500
            Re: UTF-8 and strings Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-11 13:12 +0900
            Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-12 20:52 -0700
              Re: UTF-8 and strings ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2011-06-13 03:57 +0000
                Re: UTF-8 and strings Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-13 10:51 +0200
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-08 08:01 +0100
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-07 21:35 +0100
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 01:56 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-09 03:22 +0100
  Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-08 15:55 +0000
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 17:55 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-09 10:02 +0000
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 08:41 -0500
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-12 20:57 -0700
            Re: UTF-8 and strings ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2011-06-13 04:46 +0000
              Re: UTF-8 and strings Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-13 11:58 +0200
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-09 06:52 -0700

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