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Re: The low road versus the high road

From Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: The low road versus the high road
Date 2014-04-28 18:12 +0200
Message-ID <bs7cv6FmjfU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 28/04/14 17:08, chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Ian Hilliard wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are doing your job correctly, requirement collection and
>>> implementation is platform independent. Testing is done on multiple
>>> platforms. It is common that the development is done on Windows, but the
>>> preferred OS is only used for deployment, if testing proves that it is
>>> suitable. It is really quite simple.
>>
>> Apparently "Hadron" and Flounder know a lot more about engineering than
>> you do, Ian.  :-D
>
> LOL.  Sure.  Like when Flathead claimed that negative feedback is
> added into the amplifier circuitry "in order to maintain stability"
> and that the amp "will go unstable" if there's not enough negative
> feedback.  Both flat-out *wrong* statements, that I corrected.

Such a statement is only wrong because of its incompleteness. Negative 
feedback reduces the overall gain of an amplifying circuit and 
compensates for distortion by cancelling out some of the input signal. 
If an amplifier circuit through design or implementation problems has 
end to end positive feedback, it can become unstable without negative 
feedback.

Negative feedback can only have a moderating effect if there is positive 
feedback in intermediate circuits within the amplifier chain. Under 
these circumstances it is not uncommon for the instability to move 
outside of the normal operating range. In audio amplifiers, this usually 
then manifests itself as distortion, because the amplifier is being 
fully driven producing RF.

Saying that negative feedback stabilises an amplifier is half an answer. 
The problem with half answers is that they can be more dangerous than no 
answer, because they can lull one into the belief that they have the answer.

Ian

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Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 14:00 +0200
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-25 14:41 +0200
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 07:55 -0500
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-25 09:25 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 08:40 -0500
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 09:55 -0400
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 16:03 +0200
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-04-25 14:21 +0000
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-25 11:41 -0600
    "Hadron" basically admits Windows is "lowest common denominator" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-25 09:24 -0400
      Re: "Hadron" basically admits Windows is "lowest common denominator" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-25 08:54 -0700
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 19:47 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 08:39 -0400
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 10:13 -0400
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:19 -0400
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 10:31 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:34 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 12:31 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-30 17:04 -0700
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-25 17:44 +0200
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 11:01 -0500
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 19:33 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 08:00 -0400
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-30 09:12 -0400
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:05 -0400
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-25 14:07 -0400
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 14:22 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 23:57 +0200
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 16:01 +0200
            The low road versus the high road Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 10:24 -0400
              Re: The low road versus the high road 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-28 10:54 -0400
              Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 10:08 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 18:12 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 18:26 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:02 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 18:32 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 18:44 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:09 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 18:47 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 12:53 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 19:10 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 13:11 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 13:32 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 13:46 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 19:28 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 07:58 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:11 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 14:12 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 13:04 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:19 -0600
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:03 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:17 -0600
                Re: The low road versus the high road Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 19:21 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 12:06 -0600
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 11:53 -0500
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 19:23 -0400
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 19:57 -0400
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 01:08 -0500
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-26 10:48 +0100
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 08:24 -0500
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 17:39 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 14:41 -0700
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:53 +0200
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 13:21 -0400

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